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connecting a wireless to an amp...

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous [BG]' started by John K., Nov 25, 2001.


  1. I'm new to this whole wireless thing, and I'm about to buy a Samson VHFTD system. I wanted to know how you go about connecting it to my amp. Do I just use an instrument cable? Or do I have to go out and buy a different cable. The manual I downloaded from the Samson site says it has an unbalanced and balanced line for connecting to consumer/pro audio equipment. Thanks alot for your time.
     
  2. Hi Snaggletooth.

    Can't give you a direct answer cos I don't know the radio gear you speak of.

    However, the type of lead you require will depend on what outlet sockets are on the reciever, and what are on your amp. If it's a standard, mono, 1/4" jack as the receiver's unbalanced audio out, and there's the same on your amp then an ordinary instrument lead will surely work.

    Balanced inputs are, I think, virtually unheard of as amp inputs [I stand to be corrected, here] because the ordinary bass (in this case) has an unbalanced output. Pro audio gear is usually different in that balanced inputs are more the norm. And even low-end mixers usually have balanced inputs, BUT FOR MIC'S, not higher level signals such as instruments.

    The type of plugs and sockets used for balanced signals are usually based on the Canon XLR style although 1/4" stereo jacks have been used.

    Like I say, I reckon the decision is already made for you depending on the connectors on the radio gear.

    Don't know whether or not that helps.

    John
     
  3. Hey, I just bought the Samson VHFTD wireless system about two hours ago. It's a good wireless system, and connecting it to your amp isn't too tough. Just take a standard instrument cable and plug it into the Unbalanced out (1/4") and then take the other end and plug it into the usual input on your amp, i hope you're as happy with it as I am.

    Chris
     
  4. Munjibunga

    Munjibunga Total Hyper-Elite Member Gold Supporting Member

    May 6, 2000
    San Diego (when not at Groom Lake)
    Independent Contractor to Bass San Diego
    The Samson should be OK, as long as you're not playing a fiver through it. The frequency response of that unit is 40 Hz to 16 kHz ±3 dB. A low E is 40 hz.
     
  5. phogchris

    phogchris www.scarsoflife.com

    May 27, 2000
    Boca Raton, FL
    The 40Hz thing doesn't really make any noticable difference to my ears. I heard something where the fundemental is only 20- something% of the whole note...I had a Shure wireless that sounded great on my low A and it only went down to 40Hz. Go with your ears, not the units specs....
     
  6. Munjibunga

    Munjibunga Total Hyper-Elite Member Gold Supporting Member

    May 6, 2000
    San Diego (when not at Groom Lake)
    Independent Contractor to Bass San Diego
    Why, of course! Your ears are calibrated far more accurately than the equipment used to measure frequency response!
     
  7. phogchris

    phogchris www.scarsoflife.com

    May 27, 2000
    Boca Raton, FL
    What difference does it make...it sounds good to me...and I was giving my opinion on a subject, sorry if you don't agree...sometimes I wonder why I bother posting here, someone always waiting to pounce.

    :rolleyes:
     
  8. Is there a recommended Hz level for basses?
     
  9. Munjibunga

    Munjibunga Total Hyper-Elite Member Gold Supporting Member

    May 6, 2000
    San Diego (when not at Groom Lake)
    Independent Contractor to Bass San Diego
    Well unless you just want to go by the subjective assessment of someone else's ear, I'd say you want it to go down to at least 30 hz for a 5-string, and 40 hz for a four-string. I like 20 hz.

    I had a Shure VHF Guitarist that went down to 50 hz. I had to quit using it because the sound sucked on pretty much everything on the E and B strings. I finally got up the courage to go wireless again, only this time I did a little research on the frequency response of most of the units in my price range. The Shure UHF Guitarist goes down to 20 hz. I got one, and it rules.
     
  10. phogchris

    phogchris www.scarsoflife.com

    May 27, 2000
    Boca Raton, FL
    I don't know why its necessary to be rude and sarcastic to me, I am on your "side", I also play bass....and you reiterated what I said in the first place, if it doesn't sound right, it isn't. My wireless that only goes down to 45Hz sounds GREAT with my low A string!!! Sorry if its not supposed to sound good....






    :p
     
  11. Munjibunga

    Munjibunga Total Hyper-Elite Member Gold Supporting Member

    May 6, 2000
    San Diego (when not at Groom Lake)
    Independent Contractor to Bass San Diego
    Phog, I'd say you're getting a little too worked up over this. You stated your opinion, and our man snaggletooth can consider it with just as much weight as he considers mine. It's just that I don't put much stock in singular anecdotal evidence of a phenomenon. As far as rudeness and sarcasm, it's my life.
     
  12. phogchris

    phogchris www.scarsoflife.com

    May 27, 2000
    Boca Raton, FL
    Ok, I was just wondering. I just don't want you or anyone to single me out, I really do hate that!!


    Anyway, on a serious note, have you had any drop-outs or anything bad happen(signal degradation or the like) with your wireless?
     
  13. I have this wireless, (Samson VHFTD) and i dont usually play a 5 string, but i played one through it just because of this thread and what i was seeing. The B string didnt seem to have a problem coming out, It may have been a little weak but not really a whole lot, it would get by fairly well, But i dont really have to worry about it because I jsut use a 4 string which sounds incredible!

    Chris
     
  14. If I got a wireless that had a 30 hz level instead of 40hz, would that affect the sound THAT much? Would the tone be clearer or something? Cause I use 4 strings.
     
  15. phogchris

    phogchris www.scarsoflife.com

    May 27, 2000
    Boca Raton, FL
    I don't think so, but if you move up to a 5, Munjibunga would say you will probably need to go down to 30Hz, I disagree though, but why not get the one that goes down to 30Hz anyway....
     
  16. How long is the cable that comes on the beltpack for the VHFTD?
     
  17. The cable on vhftd is kind of long, i'm not sure exactly how long ,but i think its a little bit too long. But its not that big of a deal, just take some electrical tape and tape the cable to the wireless if it gets in your way.
    Chris