Contemporary Jazz content - When a favorite bassist 'leaves the band'

Discussion in 'Bassists [BG]' started by Chad Michael, Jul 14, 2013.

  1. :meh:


    - Kim Stone leaving Rippingtons...
    - Jimmy Haslip leaving Yellowjackets...

    Really trying to warm up to the playing of Rico and Felix :confused:
  2. Ben Rose

    Ben Rose Supporting Member

    Jan 12, 2004
    I know... Jimmy leaving the jackets was a hit for me, as was Will Kennedy. Still, I'm willing to check them out with Felix with an open mind.
  3. DWBass

    DWBass The Funkfather

    Rico is a great musician (he's an even better keyboardist) but his onstage presence turns me off. I have boycotted the Ripps as long as Rico is in the band! As far as Kim Stone....well, he had some personal issues going on that interfered with his professionalism.

    Jimmy just wanted to do some other things. He's been with the Yellowjackets so long and I'm sure he had to turn down some great things due to the commitment. Will has returned to the band.
  4. Far as I know, Will is back for good, and I didn't mind Marcus Baylor's playing - you?
  5. Hmmm - I didn't know this.

    BTW - is there any clips on line with Rico's other work - bass or keys?

    I was sad to see Oscar Cartaya leave Spyro Gyra as well, since he was with them for the very first live performance that I had the pleasure of hearing.
  6. JimK


    Dec 12, 1999
    ...not knowing the full story, I was upset when Jaco left Weather Report.

    The Yellowjackets without Haslip just doesn't seem proper.
    When Will Kennedy left, that was a shocker (for me, at least). Glad he's back.
    Fact is, I was sitting in this very cube when I read Peter Erskine becomes the drummer for the Yellowjackets.

    Spyro Gyra, at least very early on, had a revolving bass door: Jim Kurzdorfer, Kim Stone, Oskar Cartaya, & Scott Ambush being the major ones that played on the recordings as well as live.
  7. DWBass

    DWBass The Funkfather

    Yep. Just type in Rico Belled. Plenty will come up. He's really good on keys!
  8. pbass888

    pbass888 Up the Irons! Westham United FC--mile high irons Supporting Member

    Jul 8, 2009
    I'm going to go check out Felix in a few weeks..and yes Jimmy is a very special musician. I think it's part of the way jazz is.. When I think about bands like the jazz messengers or miles groups over the years. The are like new incarnations especially when you add new rhythm sections. I think it's just the nature of jazz.
  9. JimK


    Dec 12, 1999
    True...although, it was always Miles or Blakely leading their own bands; the guys they ran through typically stayed a "short" time before they themsleves moved onto their own thing. That's "the nature of Jazz".
    Haslip co-started the YJ & has been there, what, 35+ years?
  10. jerry

    jerry Too old for a hiptrip Gold Supporting Member

    Dec 13, 1999
    ....with Marcus and Will Lee on their albums.;) I'm still getting used to the new Yellowjackets album, a little restrained from some of the live clips I've seen with them and Felix. But I think in the long run Felix is going to be a great addition to the band and a logical choice given his history with Mintzer and Haslip.
  11. Snarf


    Jan 23, 2005
    I loved Marcus' playing with the Jackets. He was very low key and fit the tunes very well. Will is much more high energy. Totally different approaches, and I like both a lot.
  12. gimmeagig

    gimmeagig Supporting Member

    Feb 25, 2004
    Coeur D'Alene,Idaho
    I have Oscar's solo CD and I had no idea he came out of Spyro Gyra. I never really connected with their music. Which CD is he on?
    As far as Jimmy goes, I wish he was back with the Yellowjackets. I know Felix is a good bassist but I just don't like the way he solos and I'm not a fan of the Fodera sound.Seems like everybody plays them these days but to me they sound squashed and quacky and definitely not worth 5 grand or whatever ridiculous price tag they might have. I heard Felix play a fretless Jazz once on a youtube clip...whole different deal.
    Jimmy doesn't sound right to me in Jeff Lorber's band. Alex Al has that stuff covered way better for my taste.
  13. jerry

    jerry Too old for a hiptrip Gold Supporting Member

    Dec 13, 1999
    FWIW, Robert Trujillo let Felix use his fathers bass of doom on a couple tracks on the new album. Oscar was on the Fast Forward Spyra Gyra album.
  14. JimK


    Dec 12, 1999

    Fast Forward was the 3rd & last Spyro Gyra album with Cartaya.
    I think it's "Para Ti Latino" from that album (composer: Oscar Cartaya): an ass-kicker.

    Cartaya is also on Rites Of Summer and Point Of View. "Swing Street", IIRC, is another one that cooks.
  15. JimK


    Dec 12, 1999
    Eddie Gomez snuck in for a tune (studio version of "Conversations" from City Kids, IIRC). Kim Stone did a great job with it on the Live album.
    Spyro Gyra also had another guy who's name escapes me...David ________?
    I recall seeing SG on TV with him; played a Music Man Sting Ray...good tone, good feel...never played on any albums, though.
    Same time frame as Magione's "Feels So Good" band with Charlie Meeks, et al.

    I guess I will pick this one up...soon.

    I'm out-of-the-loop: Did Haslip leave the 'jackets to hook up with Lorber?!?!?
    I don't like it.
  16. DWBass

    DWBass The Funkfather

    Personally, I don't like Felix 'sound' and 'feel' with the Yellowjackets. I'm just used to hearing Jimmy's signature sound!
  17. DWBass

    DWBass The Funkfather

    No kidding! Took me a couple months to learn to play that right!
  18. jerry

    jerry Too old for a hiptrip Gold Supporting Member

    Dec 13, 1999
    They are on the new Jeff Richman together. I don't know why Haslip left the Yellowjackets, but it seems he a bit of a hand in the pick of Felix from what I've read.
  19. JimK


    Dec 12, 1999
  20. Thanks for the good discussion here, I've learned a few things and have some new music to check out (old Jeff Lorber fan).

    I.M.O. -

    - Rippingtons with Kim Stone
    - Yellowjackets with Jimmy Haslip
    - Spyro Gyra with Oscar Cartaya

    .... each bassist just had a natural ability to "speak the language" of their respecive band, their playing just fits better.

    Now the disclaimer: I envy the talent of, and opportunities given to, Rico, Felix, and Scott.

    Here is a live clip of Kim, solo goes from around 4:10 to 5:30 or so - it just fits the song, holds the groove so well.