I have a new 2011 Am Std Fender P-Bass and want to add a Jazz pup by the bridge (probably '70's Spacing). Any advice is appreciated as i have never done this before. I prefer the sound of single coils..that vintage 'bark'..but am concerned that i will get a lot of noise and buzz ...perhaps even with sheilding. Is that the case? I want the 3 controls to be volume + blend + tone. Thanks for reading!
Maybe try dual Jazz pickups in 60's and 70's position. Use both to hum cancel, or just select one for true single coil. That's what I think I'd do anyways...
There are hum-cancelling Jazz pickups you can get: Aguilar Preamps Dimarzio Model J Bass Pickups NOTE: The "Aguilar Preamps" link goes to Nordstrand pickups, not Aguilar preamps.
I'm pretty sure a true single coil will give you at least some hum. With that said when I solo or favor one of the pickups on my American standard jazz the hum is hardly noticeable and in a band setting virtually non-existent. I have searched this topic here quite a bit because I might like to do this at some point when I can swing getting another bass. Seems the consensuses here is that the P-pickup with over power the J pickup no matter what kind you get. All it will do is give you the effect of two pickups, the more you blend in the J the more mid-scooped your sound will get and when you favor the J it will sound (obviously) like a bridge position J pickup. If you want to avoid 60 cycle hum all together I would just go with a noiseless J pickup (either dual or stacked). As far as Kael's idea, you can't put a jazz in both positions because the difference is only a 1/4 of an inch. You could how ever go Berry Oakley style and do this: or on a P bass it looks like this (pretty much what Kael meant (I think) but its a J in the 60's position and another J in between the other J and the bridge).
Awesome!! Thanks bassbob1! Anyone know a bridge jazz pup known for really high output? One that might hang with a P- pup as much as possible?
If I remember correctly, you want to look for one with the highest resistance. I remember the Dimarzio Ultra Jazz coming up I little bit in a thread I was reading. I think its resistance is 12K. The thread also said that its mid-scooped voicing paired well with the Mid bump of a P. I'm just passing on what I have read here. A search here will probably give you much more in depth info.
I say sell it and buy a used Jazz Bass if you are not fond of this type of sound. Your mod is going to cost you a lot of money and affect the value of your bass. It's the lesson I've learner after 30 yrs of bass playing. I've often regretted those kind of experiments in retrospect.
I hear ya Frenchy-Lefty. I have 4 Jazz basses and they are my go to axes. But it is nice to have a P in the stable. I play music for a living full time so any expense is a tax right off. I also buy basses to play and understand that resale is effected. This P is the most resonant P i have ever played. It is crazy resonant! It setup beautifully It will be my P for a long time. The addition of a bridge pup would make it more versatile and better suited for my needs as a player...specifically...it will aid me in the tone i need for all the old school funk and soul i play a lot of. For me, the right bridge pup could make this bass a real go to.
I would suggest going with a SD spb-1 with the SD stk j at the bridge position. They sre very close in output, so you don't have an overpowering p pickup...plus the stk j is hum cancelling. They also sound really nice.
I wouldnt ruin the value of a new $1200 bass with this mod. Buy a used bass or a less expensive one IMO.
Fwiw...once again...i appreciate the sentiment but i Buy basses to be played. It is how i make a living. The better a bass plays and sounds, the more valuable it is to me. I understand that the value will be effected, but i think this bass will be even more unbelievable if i can blend some barky bridge tone into the exsistant huge P tone.
This. But I would ad my own twist. I use the sd spb2 and the stk2 for more mids, you said you like mids and they'll give it to you. You can also use a push/pull pot for the J vol to put the bridge pickup in series or parallel. This setup truly kicks arse. My custom modded Jaguar has these two pickups, a three way switch (a blend knob is useless IMO) and two volumes with the J pickup on a push pull pot for changing the bridge coil wiring. No tone, but you can add one if you'd like.
I say knock yourself out. I had planned to turn 2 P's into P/J's but ended up selling both instead. If fender wont make them that way again, DIY!
One other thought.. I played a P/J that had Vol/tone Vol/tone stacked knobs a while back. Normally I dislike that setup. On that bass however it worked quite well. I really liked turning the bridge J on full blast, rolling all the tone off the P pickup and then blending in the P till the two pickups were evenly matched. It was a very nice blend of Jaco burp with old school motown thump. Might want to consider tone knobs for each pickup. I actually might try a master vol, vol/tone, vol/tone setup too. I like having a master volume knob when I can.
I put flats...well chromes on her last night and i think i might have found exactly what i was looking for! Ill know after i hear the bass in the mix at tomorrow nights gig. Ill shoot some video and will welcome feedback!