Converting a Hofner style violin bass to a 5 string

Discussion in 'Hardware, Setup & Repair [BG]' started by Palindrome, Jun 4, 2019.

  1. Palindrome

    Palindrome

    Nov 12, 2016
    My dream instrument is a 5 string violin bass tuned EADGC. Obviously no one manufactures that, and small luthiers will charge thousands for that kind of project. What is the likelihood of successfully swapping the neck of a violin bass with a wider neck that accommodates 5 strings? Are glued-on necks impossible to replace? Is the neck joint cavity capable of being widened while maintaining structural integrity?
     
  2. Lance Bunyon

    Lance Bunyon Supporting Member

    Jul 17, 2018
    Ali Express sells one, with cheesy ferrules instead of a tailpiece.
     
  3. Palindrome

    Palindrome

    Nov 12, 2016
    For $300 it looks enticing, but it doesn't seem like it's a full hollowbody. I love the sound of an actual hollow violin bass.
     
  4. Axstar

    Axstar Inactive

    Jul 8, 2016
    Scotland.
    Seems like a faff, and the design of a violin bass doesn't lend itself to a fifth string.

    Steaming off the neck, fitting in a custom wider neck, somehow landscaping a wider neck heel into the body, finding pickups with a wide enough sensing area that still sound 'Hofner', finding a wider bridge and a 5-string trapeze tailpiece, refinishing... it all seems like a lot of work. And then the top might start collapsing under the additional tension of a fifth string.
     
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  5. charlie monroe

    charlie monroe Gold Supporting Member

    Feb 14, 2011
    Buffalo, NY
    This is my main concern
     
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  6. gebass6

    gebass6 We're not all trying to play the same music. Supporting Member

    Don't.
    The structure of a four string Hofner violin bass is not built for five strings.
    It has to be braced for five from the start.
     
  7. sissy kathy

    sissy kathy Back to Bass-ics Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 21, 2014
    Arbutus, MD
    .tcejorp fo dnik taht rof sdnasuoht egrahc (,ereh erutats gniklat t'nera ew) sreihtul llams yhw dnatsrednu nac uoy ebyam won, now maybe you can understand why small luthiers (we aren't talking stature here,) charge thousands for that kind of project.

    I'm not doing that again; it's too much work.
     
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  8. Palindrome

    Palindrome

    Nov 12, 2016
    So does anyone know a thing or two about that Chinese violin bass from AliExpress? Is it solid or a partial hollowbody?
     
  9. Axstar

    Axstar Inactive

    Jul 8, 2016
    Scotland.
    Your best bet is to contact a builder on there and see what they say. It might just have a block down at the ferrules.
     
  10. sissy kathy

    sissy kathy Back to Bass-ics Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 21, 2014
    Arbutus, MD
    In my dealings with them they have been very responsive to my whims. If you establish communication and tell them you want that flame maple back intact and a 5 string tailpiece, you are liable to get an email in a week or ten days giving you a link to their new design. Especially if you point out the design flaws of through body and the advantages of a tail piece with a floating bridge.
     
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  11. Palindrome

    Palindrome

    Nov 12, 2016
    I wanted to get in touch with them, but I've looked everywhere and cannot for the life of me find the option to contact them.
     
  12. buldog5151bass

    buldog5151bass Kibble, milkbones, and P Basses. And redheads.

    Oct 22, 2003
    Connecticut
    Those basses already have very narrow string spacing at the bridge.
     
  13. sissy kathy

    sissy kathy Back to Bass-ics Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 21, 2014
    Arbutus, MD
    That is the factory store. Here is your contact information; left side "Service Center." You have to go through Aliexpress just like on ebay, so ya gotta join before you can talk..
    Buy Products Online from China Wholesalers at Aliexpress.com
     
    Last edited: Jun 6, 2019