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Converting Fender style headstock to 2+2 style....can it be done?...any experience?

Discussion in 'Luthier's Corner' started by Mikeus, Sep 26, 2008.

  1. there are many fine necks available to buy but i can not find any decent with 2+2 config. can a fender style 4 line be converted to 2+2 style? :bag:


  2. slyjoe

    slyjoe Supporting Member

    Jun 28, 2008
    Valley of the Sun (AZ)
    Warmoth has various headstock designs.
  3. envika


    Nov 27, 2007
    Bronx, NY
    What would be the reason? I actually prefer 4-in-line, STRONGLY, to 2x2. I know with 2x2 you can get rid of some headstock mass, but it's not worth the risk of failing to convert...
  4. UncleBalsamic


    Jul 8, 2007
    Go Warmoth for a direct repalcement neck. It'd be too messy and too much of a hassle to convert it.
  5. the reason? ive fallen in love with a black sadowsky metro 5but i really dislike the headstock shape. its at a good price so im willing to have it altered if i can.
  6. If you are looking at a Sadowsky 5-string bass (4+1 headstock), then -- do you want to know if you can convert a 4+1 into a 3+2? Is that the question?

    If so - what is it that you don't like about the h/s shape?
  7. never been a fan of them, love the tone though. have always wanted to see a J style bass with a symetrical 2+2 or 3+2 (that isnt shaped like fender)
  8. weeellll.... if you spend enough time trolling through 2d hand music shops and ebay listings, you'll see a nice variety of butchered and hacked-up headstocks. So tread carefully. This is not a DIY job unless you are quite experienced with woodworking and finishing (which I guess you are not, based on your post).

    Anyway, the answer is -- yes, an experienced luthier or guitar repairman can do what you want, given a design that is mechanically sound, plus time and money.

    But it will probably be ugly :)

    Good luck & let us see what you come up with.
  9. nice! yeah sorta like that. but im a no frills man, just plain all black will do ;) dont like the pups on that thing...:meh:

    this is the used sadowsky im after...

  10. ehque


    Jan 8, 2006
    Send it back to sadowsky to get it modded?
  11. Ofcourse it can, 2 x 2 and 3 x 2. Personally, I wouldn't touch a Sadowsky but that's me. I was going to go 3 x 2 on the first bass I made from scratch (needed to change the headstock to avoid issues) after I already made it 4 x 1. I didn't want to put in the additional work to modify the headstock at the time, so the change came later in a refined design.
  12. ehque


    Jan 8, 2006
    But really, i wouldn't touch a Sad with a router.
  13. pilotjones

    pilotjones Supporting Member

    Nov 8, 2001
    You could round off the Sadowsky point to make it more Fender-like without too much trouble, I think.
  14. Don't think you can do that -- the tuners will be too crowded. It would have to be redesigned - sides and end trimmed; maybe glue on wings; dowel the holes; probably glue on a face veneer; redrill; etc.
  15. CamMcIntyre


    Jun 6, 2000
    I realize you're free to do whatever you want, but is not liking the headstock worth the possibility of ruining a great bass? I'd learn to tolerate it and save your time and money.
  16. pilotjones

    pilotjones Supporting Member

    Nov 8, 2001
    I wasn't addressing the 3+2 aspect, just the "don't like the Sad design" aspect. Without moving any tuners, you could round off the point to get a headstock somewhere between a P/J HS and a Tele HS. And you'd have only a small area of new bare wood to patch varnish on.
  17. eleonn


    Aug 24, 2006
    Lima - PerĂº
    I wouldnt touch the original neck. Buy a new one or talk to somebody to make you one (its not gonna be cheap and he/she will need the body). In case the new neck don't look fine (I guess it wont) you can put back the original neck.
  18. thanks for the replies :) does moses make necks that would fit a sado?

    you guys would cringe if you know what im going to do the sonus special ive got my eyes on lol!...:D
  19. ehque


    Jan 8, 2006
    You want to buy a sadowsky to put a moses neck on? Might as well go with a Zon...

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