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Convince me.....

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Spearhead, May 13, 2001.


  1. I am seriously considering getting a rickenbacker. The problem is I dont know if I should get a rick or go ahead and get a similairly priced custom bass. Can you guys convince me that the rick is it for me. I just love its tone and its feel, but a custom might be much more versatile and have the same qualities. what should I do?
     
  2. Edgar

    Edgar

    Nov 4, 2000
    Montreal, QC, CA
    If you REALLY need something versatile, stay away from a Rickenbaker.
     
  3. Ryan L.

    Ryan L. Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Aug 7, 2000
    West Fargo, ND
    I would have to agree 100% with that. Unless you are into the "Rick sound", go with something else. Not that Ricks are bad basses; they just have that unmistakable sound. Not that that is either good or bad, it is just the way it is.

    Ryan
     
  4. Edgar

    Edgar

    Nov 4, 2000
    Montreal, QC, CA
    I did own a 4003 for a while. Very nice construction, very easy and fun to play. If it wasn't for it distinctive sound I would recommend that you go ahead and buy one. It could easily be the best buy for the buck on the market at this price range. Love that Mapleglow finish!
     
  5. Nino Valenti

    Nino Valenti Commercial User

    Feb 2, 2001
    Staten Island NYC
    Builder: Valenti Basses
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    I say go for one. I wish I still had that burgandy one. It played like a dream!!!!!! The pic is from 1993. WOW!!!! I just got the white one & I'm loving it!!!!! BUT, like stated before, it's pretty much a one trick pony. If you don't like a Ric sound, STAY AWAY!!!!
     
  6. Blackbird

    Blackbird Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Mar 18, 2000
    California
    What kind of trick does it do.

    Seriously, that's the best way I could phrase it.

    Actually, no. What's the thing you like best about the Rick sound?

    Will C.:cool:
     
  7. Nino Valenti

    Nino Valenti Commercial User

    Feb 2, 2001
    Staten Island NYC
    Builder: Valenti Basses
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    I'm.........getting.............very.......confused. LOL. It has a nice growl, slightly overdriven type sound. The E & the A are very ballsy.
    It has a very bright sound in the D & the G. I like it because it cuts through very well live. When you are playing rhe lower strings it growls like a tiger & when you play the higher strings, their nice & bright. IMO.
     
  8. I really don't understand the one sound bass thing. I have played all the "one sound" basses, the RIC, the Thumb, and the Stingray. They all have diferent sounds, they all have their sounds, but i have never thought, "crap, i should have brought my jazz bass, purple haze just sounds wrong with my RIC." I also have a 12 string and a fretless, those basses have a sound that is great for some tunes but not all, a matter of fact my Pedulla fretless sounds great in any content, if you play it the right way it is almost hard to tell it is a fretless.

    Maybe its just me, maybe i need new ears.
     
  9. Nino Valenti

    Nino Valenti Commercial User

    Feb 2, 2001
    Staten Island NYC
    Builder: Valenti Basses
    What about the "one sound" bass? I didn't understand the "purple haze" phraze. Do you not like em, like em, not care if it has 1 sound as long as it's a good sound.....
     
  10. Yea Nino that is what I was trying to say, I hear a lot on TB about stay away from this or that because it has "one sound". I never really thought about it that way, I love the Ric the Jazz, the Stingray, and the Thumb. To me I really don't care, they are all great basses, what I don't understand is why it matters if a bass has a certain sound, if it sounds great it sounds great. As far as the Purple Haze comment, again if you saw a band playing it and the bass player had a Thumb Bass or whatever, would any one care? Noel probally played a Jazz on it but you can play it just as good with a Ric. Bassicly I would guess most of us are not studio musicians, there really isn't a need for a mega-multi toned bass. If you are playing clubs or whatever, if a person likes a RIC, like I do, then get the thing, it is not going to make someone less of a player. I don't grab my RIC and think, Wow I love this bass, bit I will only be able to play YES, Rush, and MotorHead songs with it.

    Don't know if that makes any sense.
     
  11. I say get the Ric! I had my heart set on getting one but had to yield to the ole budget constraints.Next year I am going to get one come hell or highwater!Pesonally I love the sound of them but that signature sound makes them somewhat unversitle.

    Yes,you could get a cutsom made bass for roughly the same price but hey...it would`nt be a Ric ,now would it!! :D
     
  12. Edgar

    Edgar

    Nov 4, 2000
    Montreal, QC, CA
    Some instrument are more versatile than others; Jazz compare to Precision (I know that you know that!). Spearhead did mention "Versatile" in his post, from my point of view, Ricks is not the best exemple so does fretless or 12 strings like you mention. I would'nt play Death Metal with and Hofner. But I could easily do Beatles and Deicide covers with a Jazz bass.
     
  13. Nino Valenti

    Nino Valenti Commercial User

    Feb 2, 2001
    Staten Island NYC
    Builder: Valenti Basses
    Why not? If a bass sounds great, what is the difference? There in no one bass for one style of music. If you like the feel, sound & playability of a bass, that's that!!!!!

    I wish I could just pick up my Ric & be able to play Yes & Rush!!!! ;)
     
  14. drbottom

    drbottom

    Mar 7, 2001
    Manchester, CT
    ON the versatility thing--

    I use to believe that it would be best to have one bass that could do it all--that is, have a wide range of sounds so that you could bring one bass to a gig and do Rush, Jaco, and the sex pistols with the same bass.

    I don't believe that anymore. You can try to get a bass that will be get you through a lot of situations, but now I think you need to use the right tool for the job. Studio musicians buy multiple basses for just this reason. Dave Pomeroy (spelling?) usually brings a number of basses to a session when he is not sure what he is going to be doing, and I've read about a number of other session players that do that as well.

    If I have a "main" bass, it is my warwick limited edition 4 string, but I also use a warwick fretless, a hamer 12, and a gibson victory. While the warwick is versatile, the other basses provide unique, specific sounds that I like and that I cannot get out of the warwick. So, if you can afford it, :) get an array of basses that have the sound you like. If you like the Ric, GET IT.

    Was this rambling or what?
     
  15. barroso

    barroso

    Aug 16, 2000
    Italia
    i play a rickenbacker 4001. i think that this bass is one of the finest around. ricks are wonderful made instruments, with flawless finish and great materials. the neck is thin and fast. pickup are passive, so if you want a super low hi volume output sound you could be not happy with a rick. the bass sounds a lot unplugged thanks to the great construction and good woods used. it has a infinite sustain, but the pickup are not beteween the hottest. the sound is very particular and the phrase 'piano like clarity' fits very well for this bass. it seems the left hand of a pianoplayer. it has a lot of dinamic it is clear and if you play aggressive you'll have the unlistakable rick sound, growly, full of mids but still clear. after the bypass surgery my rick plays sweet and it is a joy to play! it has a neck that need to be known, but in my opinion it's the best arouns even if not so soft as other moder basses. add to this an overall quality in finishes completely superior to all the other well known brand and you have my idea of what a rick is. i suggest you one, but play one before buy...it could be really helpful!
    marco
     
  16. Gabu

    Gabu

    Jan 2, 2001
    Lake Elsinore, CA
    I use a violin bass to play some of my harder/rock or heavy metal... It sounds fine to me. :)

    I imagine that every bass will sound somewhat unique. But I guess I am just not a tone-freak... I am happy to play any song that I know on any of my basses.

    I have a P-Bass copy, a ABG, a Violin bass and a steinberger.

    I would use any of them on any of my songs.
     
  17. Nino Valenti

    Nino Valenti Commercial User

    Feb 2, 2001
    Staten Island NYC
    Builder: Valenti Basses
    I'm with you. It depends on the mood I'm in before rehearsal or a show. I'll use my Spectors, Warmoth, Ric, P-bass(haven't in a while), etc. They all get the job done.
     
  18. Edgar

    Edgar

    Nov 4, 2000
    Montreal, QC, CA
    Nino Brown,

    I knew someone would say that;

    - Rule #1, always follow the rules.
    - Rule #2, always break the rules.

    My advice was for someone starting to play bass or with only one bass.