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Convincing Mesa 400+ Emulation?

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by Pitbull Growl, Jul 22, 2009.

  1. Jul 22, 2009 #1
    Pitbull Growl

    Pitbull Growl

    Jan 6, 2009
    NNJ/NYC
    Hey Guys,
    I hoping y'all can help me out here. I'm looking for something that can cop convincing Mesa amp tones. I know the Line6 Pods have a Mesa amp modeling mode, but there's so many types of PODs out there... does one kind sound better than the other for this? Are there any other effects that can pull it off better?

    I really don't wanna buy, lug around, and maintain a big heavy tube amp if I can get away w/convincing emulation.

    Any ideas/input?

    Thx
     
  2. Jul 22, 2009 #2
    whoatherechunk

    whoatherechunk

    Apr 4, 2008
    I would have to say no. If anything maybe a tronographic rusty box. I just don't think you can get away with a 400+ tone
     
  3. Jul 22, 2009 #3
    Pitbull Growl

    Pitbull Growl

    Jan 6, 2009
    NNJ/NYC
    Thx Chunk. I was afraid of that, but figured I'd ask.
     
  4. Jul 22, 2009 #4
    RickenBoogie

    RickenBoogie

    Jul 22, 2007
    Dallas, TX
    I can only say this about modelling; comparing a Vox AD50VT set on the AC-15 model, with an actual AC-15, they sound nothing alike. Not even remotely. So, my opinion on modelling, in general, is nothing more than subtle eq tweaks in any given circuit. Iow, bogus hocus pocus.
     
  5. Jul 22, 2009 #5
    Chronicle

    Chronicle

    Sep 13, 2006
    NY
    Wish I could have 400+ tone without a huge heavy amp :(
     
  6. Jul 22, 2009 #6
    foomanfat

    foomanfat

    Apr 21, 2009
    North Myrtle Beach, SC
    this
     
  7. Jul 22, 2009 #7
    Chronicle

    Chronicle

    Sep 13, 2006
    NY
    Meh, I did want it at one point...almost traded a GK2001 for it but sadly the deal fell through. The amp is so heavy and all those tubes....

    I'm happy with my Mesa M6 now :D
     
  8. Jul 22, 2009 #8
    foomanfat

    foomanfat

    Apr 21, 2009
    North Myrtle Beach, SC
    Yeah, I'm thoroughly enjoying my Buster! Bass 200. If I ever upgrade it will be a 400+.
     
  9. Jul 22, 2009 #9
    whoatherechunk

    whoatherechunk

    Apr 4, 2008
    put some muscle on guys! it's not that heavy for a tube amp. Svt's are where the "real" heavy is at.
     
  10. Jul 22, 2009 #10
    Chronicle

    Chronicle

    Sep 13, 2006
    NY
    good thing i don't like ampegs :D
     
  11. Jul 22, 2009 #11
    whoatherechunk

    whoatherechunk

    Apr 4, 2008
    :). well do not ever get a road ready mesa cabinet. :D
     
  12. Jul 22, 2009 #12
    foomanfat

    foomanfat

    Apr 21, 2009
    North Myrtle Beach, SC
    I want some heft. Road Ready 8x10 and a 400+ is my dream rig.
     
  13. Jul 22, 2009 #13
    vegas532

    vegas532

    Nov 10, 2006
    Pensacola, FL.
    ^ +1,000,000 on what he said. :D
     
  14. Jul 22, 2009 #14
    Chronicle

    Chronicle

    Sep 13, 2006
    NY
    I actually DON'T like Mesa cabs...can you believe it? :ninja:
     
  15. Jul 22, 2009 #15
    vegas532

    vegas532

    Nov 10, 2006
    Pensacola, FL.
    I like Mesa cabs, it's the transportation aspect of owning them that I'm not too fond of. :p
     
  16. Jul 22, 2009 #16
    Hookus

    Hookus

    Oct 2, 2005
    Austin, TX
    I have found that I can cop just about any amp tone I want in my rig, SWR Interstellar Overdrive through an Ampeg SVT-4. Like it or not, The SVT-4 IMO, is one of the most versatile bass amps on the market, ever. I run the SWR IOD in the effect loop, but you can run the IOD as a standalone pre as well. with all the blending, drive, and EQ options, the possibilities are endless. You just have to put in the time to learn how to use it all.

    Just my 2.
     
  17. Jul 22, 2009 #17
    OptimusPrime

    OptimusPrime

    Mar 30, 2008
    Florida
    Maybe an EBS ValveDrive? IDK.
     
  18. Jul 22, 2009 #18
    Jefenator

    Jefenator Supporting Member

    Aug 22, 2008
    Oregon
    Yeah, at 43 pounds, the real thing is *not* that bad to schlepp.

    I doubt the pod could ever do it justice, unless maybe if you were to run the pod in to a tube power amp! :D
     
  19. Jul 23, 2009 #19
    lorenk

    lorenk

    Apr 8, 2008
    Bend, Oregon
    Totally agree! :D

    Once you hear the sweet, sweet tone coming outta the 400/400+...there is no going back. Even for such things as "weight" or "maintainance cost"...such things are trivial :D

    PS Jefenator, hows the 400 treating you, still killin with it? :)
     
  20. Jul 23, 2009 #20
    Pitbull Growl

    Pitbull Growl

    Jan 6, 2009
    NNJ/NYC
    It's not so much the weight that turns me off to the 400+ (Have you seen my cabs?! lol), I just don't trust tube amps in general to survive multiple trips w/multiple bands back & forth from NJ to NYC, CT, LI, etc. w/o incident (or maybe it's Murphy's Law... or me I don't trust). Also I get plenty of volume w/my rig, w/some very usable tones... so I don't wanna make an unnecessary and costly purchase just to "scratch an itch" I have.