First let me say that I do not pretend to be a music teacher. I know enough music theory and can play enough styles to keep from humiliating myself with other musicians. I would describe my musicianship as very adequate. Having said that I have these neighbors who've been asking me to give their throwback 80s metal head son bass lessons. He's actually just wants me to teach him songs so he doesn't have to learn them on his own. He has stated flat out that he has no interest in learning music theory because his favorite bassists, Steve Harris and Geezer Butler, don't know anything about music and he is comfortable with only being good enough to play that genre of rock music. I told him that the guys he mentioned have been playing for 40 years or more and I'm sure they either started out as, or have become, musically literate. Self taught, does not necessarily mean untrained. He swears they're not, and if they're not there's no reason he should be. It makes me want to slap him silly to be honest. I told him I would put this debate to rest by posting it here on TB. So please, tell this kid that his favorite musicians are not as in the dark musically as he thinks they are. Oh, and while were at it, help me get through to him that learning at least the basics of music theory will help keep his mom from paying me $50 to show him how to play Black Sabbath songs that he could easily learn himself!