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Cops kill family dogs over minor drug offense

Discussion in 'Off Topic [BG]' started by baalroo, May 8, 2010.

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  1. Other than this overyhped blunder, I don't hear of dynamic entry used in this way. Law enforcement agencies are basically run by the government, so beurocracy and screw us happen from time to time. Normally, a uniformed officer can serve a warrant like this with ease. At least where I'm from, dynamic entry is used appropriately. I'm sure they'd rather not, but too many dangerous thugs around here.

    I looked at enlisting, but the US Army considers childhood asthma serious enough to deny my application. I have considered local law enforcement, but the waiting list to get on the force is very long, especially if you don't already have family on the inside.

    Glad you are sorry about my friend, but happy to take another jab. I truly would leave if I didn't like it here.
  2. ya,those corgi bites can be dangerous...the decision to forcibly enter a private home on flimsy grounds is a tad different than afganistan.....wow.....they found some pot,terrorized a family,and shot some dogs....... the streets are safe now
  3. anyonefortennis

    anyonefortennis Supporting Member

    Jun 28, 2005
    Lincoln, NE
    I don't think the words "OH MY GOD, HERE COMES A CORGI, RUN FOR YOUR LIFE" have ever been uttered.

    Didn't read much or watch the video and I'm still going to side with the pups here. I don't own one but Corgis are the coolest dogs ever.
  4. billhilly66


    Aug 25, 2007
    Plano, TX
    The CATO Institute did a report on the frequency of dynamic entry raids a few years back and it turns out they are indeed over used for this kind of warrant service. Also, the feds are/were giving away quite a bit of military equipment to LE agencies which explains the SWAT teams in little towns you'd think couldn't afford one.

    As to the jab: I'm not happy with a lot that the government does but I feel it is my obligation to try and change that as opposed to becoming an expat. I served my country and I feel that I have a right to bitch about stuff I don't like.
  5. The corgi was caged and apparently hit due to missing the pitbull, who wasn't caged. One would assume the pitbull charged, but I haven't seen anything to confirm or deny this. At least where I'm from, every pitbull owner whose pitbull attacks someone will ALWAYS say it was the nicest dog ever. Parents of gang members usually say the same "he ain't never done nothing to noboy," or how he was turning his life around. Honesty is never a thug's strong suit. I'm sure some cops will do their best to cover their tracks, but the public isn't always so innocent.

    Why they went after a low priority pot dealer is beyond me, but you must remember that the SWAT team acted under orders. It was probably made by some guy who sits behind a desk, but another guy put his life on the line and did the dirty work. Naturally, the cop on the street will take the heat while some desk jockey lets that cop take the heat and sits at his desk without any public scrutiny.

    As for Afganistan, forgot to mention that my late friend was sent in on a target that was supposedly minimal risk, but someone was ready and waiting. At least that was the story that was passed down, so who knows how accurate or classified it is.
  6. guy n. cognito

    guy n. cognito Secret Agent Member Gold Supporting Member

    Dec 28, 2005
    Nashville, TN
    Don't get your news from youtube, folks.
  7. the public may not be innocent,but they are the public and should not have armed men kicking in the doors,unless there is a serious threat....i agree that the swat team acted under orders....thats the problem..perhaps if we trained cops to think instead of blindly obey we'd be better off.....
  8. I don't live in a small town, so I'll take your word on the podunk departments having a SWAT team. In cities with a big enough crime problem, there isn't the luxury to waste their time with such low priority criminals. They barely enough to keep up with hard criminals.

    Used or abused, most SWAT teams operate under orders and can't serve a no-knock warrant without specific orders and approvals by some form of judge. The SWAT team didn't simply pick out a house to raid. How this was approved is beyond me. I still believe the desk jockeys are responsible, but they'll naturally dangle this officer. Better him than them. That's how the world works.

    I have no doubt the CATO institute would say something like this. It's well within their agenda. Somehow I think youtube might be a little more credible than a politically charged group like this.
  9. Nice idea in theory, but not bound to be adopted by law enforcement, the military, my boss :p, etc. Some form of boss tells people under them to obey orders. Hardly unique to anything in any society.
  10. newbold


    Sep 21, 2008
    Just because it's a Socialist (state-run service) entity it's bound to make errors?

    Everybody phucks up, guy. Not just the Government.
  11. here's another idea then.....the men and women serving over seas are largely motivated by a desire to preserve the rights and freedoms guaranteed to americans....how would it be perceived for the cops to violate or trample those without some kind of serious threat
  12. Munjibunga

    Munjibunga Total Hyper-Elite Member Gold Supporting Member

    May 6, 2000
    San Diego (when not at Groom Lake)
    Independent Contractor to Bass San Diego
    I don't necessarily disagree. A giant pit bull used to live at the place where we practice, and he was very gentle and friendly. Also very dumb. I suspect he was part bull mastiff, but the owners swore he was pure pit bull. I used to grab him by those giant jowl muscles and tell him he had a big ol' bullum head. It was about the size of a basketball. He always looked sad when I told him that.

    However, I never, ever trust a pit bull I don't know. I have similar feelings about pit bull owners as I do about cigar smokers and tat wearers. (Before anyone accuses me of being prejudiced, I am. Deal with it.)
  13. Munjibunga

    Munjibunga Total Hyper-Elite Member Gold Supporting Member

    May 6, 2000
    San Diego (when not at Groom Lake)
    Independent Contractor to Bass San Diego
  14. Munjibunga

    Munjibunga Total Hyper-Elite Member Gold Supporting Member

    May 6, 2000
    San Diego (when not at Groom Lake)
    Independent Contractor to Bass San Diego
    My dachshund could shred your ankles.
  15. cheezewiz

    cheezewiz Supporting Member

    Mar 27, 2002
    I gotta admit Munj.....I smoke the occasional cigar and have lots of tats.
  16. This is a very odd comment, and completely wrong. THAT IS THEIR JOB. Further, that's what you pay law enforcement for. There are many times when SOMEONE has to go through that door with firearm in hand without knowing what's on the other side. I've been that someone. Trust me, it's not fun - but it's your job.
  17. RWP


    Jul 1, 2006
    We need to send the ARMY to California. There is pot all over the place there. :rollno: They sell it in stores!!! :D
  18. How is it that this goes from "Innocent family having tea time with stuffed animals bumrushed by SWAT team" to "drug dealer's uncaged pitbull shot during raid"? That seems to happen a bit here. It's pretty funny if you ask me.

  19. MJ5150

    MJ5150 Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Apr 12, 2001
    Olympia, WA
    Well bummer. I'll trust the judgement of the police officer who shot the dog, he must have felt threatened.

    I saw no brutality displayed toward the man or his family.

  20. Darkstrike

    Darkstrike Return Of The King!

    Sep 14, 2007
    The more I get to know people, the more I like animals....
    On the other hand, I usually give the "benifit of the doubt", I'm often dissapointed.

    On topic, seems like the cops were put into a situation where they had to make a snap judgement. Happens often in their line of work.
    Looks like they made the wrong one, but I'll reserve judgment, since all I know is internet ramblings.

    As someone else said, its the children I pity. The dogs too though, as they had no choices in the matter.

    Sad story all round.

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