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Couple stupid SWR questions--SM 900 & Bass 750

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by Ryan L., Sep 10, 2001.


  1. Ryan L.

    Ryan L. Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Aug 7, 2000
    West Fargo, ND
    I am gonna be buying one of these two heads this weekend. I got to try a 750 last week through a Goliath III, and loved it, so I am pretty much set on an SWR.

    1. Of the two, which head has proven to be most reliable??

    2. I will be running it through a 1 Goliath III to start with, and plan on adding another one in the very near future. Would the stereo SM 900 be better for this, or would it be just as good to run both with the mono 750??

    3. Are there major differences in tone between the two heads?? (I will try out the 900 anyway, I just want a bit of an idea here)

    4. (this one is really dumb:rolleyes: ) Why is the 750 bigger, both in weight and rack spaces??

    THanks
    Ryan
     
  2. The SM 900 is a more proven design.
    It has a much more flexable multi-band semi-parametric eq is footswitchable between 2 different eq's, a blend of the 2, and bypass... that's 4 options under your foot.
    The stereo and bi-amp options available on the
    SM 900 make it much more flexible in regards to cabinet selection.
    Theorically the SM900 can power 8 eight ohm or 4 four ohm cabinets because each channel goes to 2 ohms.
    The Bass 750 features not available with the
    SM 900 is the "turbo" bass feature.
    The Bass 750 weights twice as much and takes an extra rack space for the same or less power then the SM 900.
    If I had a choice between the two...
    SM 900 wins hands-down.
    No brainer.
     
  3. Ryan L.

    Ryan L. Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Aug 7, 2000
    West Fargo, ND
    That's kinda what I have been starting to think. And the 900 is only a couple hundred bucks more.

    Thanks
     
  4. Imabassplayr

    Imabassplayr

    Aug 5, 2001
    ya, but the bass 750 is bigger :D
     
  5. boogiebass

    boogiebass

    Aug 16, 2000
    Yeah, the only problem is that the Bass 750, with it's tube preamp, sounds twice as phat as the 900! Compare 'em both before you buy. I disagree with Donne, I'd take the 750 any day over the 900. The 900 has more options but the 750's simplicity is one of its strong points and it's quite easy to get a great sound without much fiddling around. And it looks WAY cooler! :D
     
  6. virtual.ray

    virtual.ray

    Oct 25, 2000
    All of SWR's Pro series amps (non Workingman's) have a tube preamp.
     
  7. Bass 750, with it's tube preamp, sounds twice as phat as the 900! And it looks WAY cooler!


    Please excuse me, but...
    HOGWASH!
     
  8. Cantstandsya

    Cantstandsya

    Jul 27, 2001
    Fontana, CA
    SM-900, just for the versatility(and more power). Believe me, with the 750 you'll be sorry when you want push more than two cabinets.
     
  9. boogiebass

    boogiebass

    Aug 16, 2000
    I don't excuse you. I consider your reply juvenile and inappropriate. There is a polite way to disagree and you should find out how to do it.
     
  10. Ryan L.

    Ryan L. Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Aug 7, 2000
    West Fargo, ND
    I will definitely be trying both of them. I seriously doubt I will ever be powering more than two cabs, so that really isn't an issue. If there is actually a noticable difference in sound in favor of one or the other, I will lean towards that one.

    I do like the idea of the two seperate eq's on the 900, but as was pointed out, the simplicity of the 750 is also attractive. Although I am sure I could get used to the 900, it can't be that tough to dial in.:D

    Also, what is a fair price to pay for each one?? My deal on the 750 for $10 over cost will be more of a pain in the butt than it is worth, so that deal is off. So, what can I expect to pay, roughly??

    Thanks
    Ryan
     
  11. PJR

    PJR

    Jun 20, 2001
    N.E. PA
    ...."Also, what is a fair price to pay for each one?? My deal on the 750 for $10 over cost will be more of a pain in the butt than it is worth, so that deal is off. So, what can I expect to pay, roughly?? "....

    here in the NY area......you could expect to pay about $950 for the SM900 and $799 for the Bass750

    .......plenty of good used deals out there though...

    -Peter
     
  12. phogchris

    phogchris www.scarsoflife.com

    May 27, 2000
    Boca Raton, FL

    I agree with this...although they both DO have tube preamps, IMO, I feel the Bass 750 sounds better, and I like the simplicity...I also got it for $1025, I can't imagine getting a NEW SM900 for anywhere near that price!!!
     
  13. boogiebass

    boogiebass

    Aug 16, 2000
    Yeah, I could have worded it better. I was trying to say that the tube pre in the 750 was warmer than the one in the 900. I'm aware they both have tube pre's.

    I bought my Bass 750, BTW, for $800 in near mint, like new condition but it WAS used and a couple of months old. This off ebay.
     
  14. phogchris

    phogchris www.scarsoflife.com

    May 27, 2000
    Boca Raton, FL
    What I meant was I think that the SM900 would be hard to find NEW for $1025!! :)
     
  15. lowfreqguy

    lowfreqguy

    Oct 18, 2000
    You should be able to buy either of these units at 40% off list without too much haggling. I bought a Bass 750 and ended up selling after 4 or 5 months. I think that the power rating is very optimistic. I was using a Genz Benz 4x10 4 ohm cabinet and had to turn the 750 up to maximum to be heard over two guitars and fairly loud drums. It sucked to have no reserve power onstage. Happy hunting.
     
  16. Ryan L.

    Ryan L. Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Aug 7, 2000
    West Fargo, ND
    Thanks for the info. I guess I will find out which is best for me this weekend. I am also gonna try an Eden WT 800 then, too, so who knows what I will come home with.;)

    thanks
    Ryan
     
  17. boogiebass

    boogiebass

    Aug 16, 2000
    I have to believe there was something seriously wrong with your rig, my friend. Then again, I know nothing about that cab so... I've used the Bass 750 in medium to large rooms and have NEVER had the gain up higher than 11 o'clock. At that level I wouldn't call it insanely loud but it's about as loud as a 6 piece band with horns, guitar and drums could tolerate. I absolutely RULED the mix at that level. The Bass 750 is very powerful with loads of headroom. If anything, I'd say it's power rating is conservative. I generally run through an SWR Goliath Sr., 4 ohm cab. Obviously, YMMV.

    PS: Ryan, I own the Eden WT800 also and I think it's a great amp if you run multiple cabs or mono-bridge a single 8ohm cab. Good luck with whatever you choose.
     
  18. Ryan L.

    Ryan L. Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Aug 7, 2000
    West Fargo, ND
    Not to change the subject, but is the WT 800 only capable of being mono bridged into 8 ohms, or can it handle a 4 ohm load bridged??
     
  19. boogiebass

    boogiebass

    Aug 16, 2000
    Nope, bridged only into 8 ohms.