Craigslist - scammer's paradise

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous [BG]' started by bwildt, Feb 3, 2023.

  1. bwildt


    Mar 21, 2017
    Wichita, Kansas
    Wow. Except for garage sale ads, I haven't posted a specific item for sale on Craigslist in a while. The place appears to be taken over by scammers.

    I'm selling an Alesis ADAT recorder. The price is low, which I would think is pretty low for scam attempts. I accept text and phone calls because that is how everyone communicates these days. In my ad, I specifically state that I will only respond to texts from my 2 local telephone area codes. Phones outside these area codes must make a voice call.

    The ad has been up for 2 hours, and I have already received 12 texts from non-local area codes, which my ad specifically states that I will not respond to. The first came in 3 minutes after posting the ad. They are all similar in format. "I'm interested/still for sale? (add title, price, location). Please call/respond/can I call/. I assume all generated by bots scraping Craigslist.

    Why does every good idea and invention have to be subverted to the dark side? I hate these people.
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  2. Michedelic

    Michedelic MId-Century Modern

    Why? People. Welcome to the internet.
  3. P. Aaron

    P. Aaron Gold Supporting Member Supporting Member

    I chuckle at the obtuseness of the texts. Broken sentences not at all discussing terms but demanding shipment w/o even discussing the 'for sale' subject specifically.
    Nigerian scam letters are better written and understandable.
  4. Spidey2112


    Aug 3, 2016
  5. On the flip side of that...

    My local CL has an ad for a Glarry knockoff Telecaster guitar that Glarry will sell you brand new for under $100.

    This dude is offering it up for the bargain price of $240. Maybe he's P.T. Barnum's grandson.o_O
  6. MonetBass

    MonetBass ♪ Just listen ♫ Supporting Member

    Sep 15, 2006
    Bots scan Craigslist ads for phone numbers. If you format yours using both numbers and words, that will thwart the bots.
  7. FullumMusic

    FullumMusic Commercial User

    Oct 13, 2022
    Queens, NYC
    Audio/Music software developer, contracted with a company you've heard of and deving my own stuff.
    Because humans.
    People used to accuse me of being a misanthropic jerk when i was young.
    Then the internet and social media happened and, everyone started complaining about the things i always used to complained about. But now they could finally see it. Of course, did i get any credit? Nahhh. All i wanted was a statue in my honor for recognizing it before the internet made it obvious. If not a statue, maybe a plaque, or a medal... A cookie. I'll accept a cookie. Chocolate chip, please. :roflmao:

    Last time i used CL seriously was about 7 years ago. It was a cesspool with some hidden gems of real humans buying/selling, or in the musicians wanted section. Today it's just a cesspool. Anyone worth dealing with won't even bother swimming through the cesspool to find the gem. It's not worth it.

    And it's too easy for "bad people" to take advantage of it. There's almost zero risk or recourse for them.
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  8. pepj


    Mar 25, 2021
    You already stated you'll ignore they can expect to be ignored.

    But yep, its the internet and people are people.
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  9. JRA

    JRA my words = opinion Gold Supporting Member


    good luck with your sale! :thumbsup:
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  10. bwildt


    Mar 21, 2017
    Wichita, Kansas
    I do not put email addresses or phone numbers in the ad text. You have to click on the "reply" button to see them. Apparently the scammer scraping scripts are smart enough to drill into subsequent web pages.

    Email is thru the Craigslist anonymizing mail relay until some vetting has taken place.
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  11. Smooth_bass88

    Smooth_bass88 vaxx!

    Oct 31, 2006
    Western Hemisphere
    This has long been established. It’s not very difficult to spot scams online.
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  12. nickpc


    Jul 23, 2012
    North Carolina
    Had a lady selling a Squier Affinity P, asking $1000. Thinking it was a typo I responded asking if she meant $100. She seemed to genuinely think it was a Fender USA Precision - and that I'd be getting a deal at a grand. Even after I pointed out the "Squier" and "Affinity" labels on the headstock she kept insisting I was wrong and that I was trying to rip her off. She stayed civil, at least, so I told her I'd stay interested at $100 since I was going to fix it up and donate it to a school music program.

    She did reach out a few times over the next few months, but never came below $800. I wonder if she ever found a sucker...
  13. gln1955

    gln1955 Supporting Member

    Aug 25, 2014
    Ohio, USA
    That's what I do and have had generally good CL experiences buying and selling over the past few years. Giving them a phone number in the ad is just asking for all the garbage that follows.
  14. Stewie


    Jul 3, 2013
    Near Boston
    I’ve done well with CL, both buying and selling, but only locally. I do enjoy the offers to have the buyers agents ship the item after paying hundreds more than the asking. “Will you take a personal check, and deliver to XYZ Trucking company?
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  15. pcake

    pcake Supporting Member

    Sep 20, 2011
    Los Angeleez
    i only accept emails from CL ads, and i hear from lots of people of all ages. i prefer emails because there's less urgency than there is with a phone call, which i have to answer.

    btw, about a quarter of the local people i know have non-local phone numbers because they moved here from other states and wanted to keep their cell phone numbers that all their family and friends had. even one of the guards at our condo calls from an out-of-state number when he has to use his personal phone, and when he calls, he's inside our condo complex.
  16. skycruiser


    Jan 15, 2019
    Same here. For every ad I get at least one of those generic responses saying they want to buy it but to contact them at their email address because they don't use "Craigslist email" (which makes no sense because it relays to your personal email). Asking to respond to a different email address? Delete.
  17. I find that using text in the ad for phone numbers helps like below
    Widget is in great shape 20 bux cash. Please call or text phive too 2 3 7 sheven won 3 2 nein

    Works for me.
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  18. bigjames

    bigjames Player of Smooth Lines

    This is interesting. I posted my Markbass amp on Craigslist...crickets for days, then one response. I met him the other day and he bought it for the asking price. Great experience over all and zero scammers or suspect contacts. I am in Vancouver Canada so that might have something to do with it.
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  19. :thumbsup: I too was hating people before it was cool. :D
  20. I love the part where the OP gave very clear and specific guidelines and rando internet dudes just broke those rules with absolutely no regard to the clear and specific guidelines.

    Thanks, internet.
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