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Discussion in 'Miscellaneous [BG]' started by metalloid, Mar 27, 2001.

  1. metalloid


    Feb 2, 2001
    What are your thoughts on he bass playing that is done in creed?

    I know its not Brian Marshall anymore, I think his name is Brett.

    I love the band as a whole, in fact, Mark Tremonti is my main inspiration and godlike figure in the music industry.
  2. I liked Marshall.. but no! He left! That biotch! I really dislike the new guy. Well, good luck to him with the gig. Anyone know what band Marshall went to or whatever?

    Anyway.. I DO like Creed. Some fun stuff to play! :D
  3. creed is awesome. i really loved brian's bass lines. i dont know the replacements name though.
  4. I think they should change their name, since Brian Marshall came up with the name 'Creed'. :p

    Other than that...well, I have Human Clay, and have been meaning to go get My Own Prison for a while. I'm just stuck in a Rush buying frenzy. Just 9 more Rush CDs to go! :D:p
  5. CamMcIntyre


    Jun 6, 2000
    I like creed-my dad got kinda scared on my wall next to my bed i have a group pic of Manson w/a pic of just Twiggy underneath it then a pic of Mudvayne then w/just Ryno then I have this big poster of Mark Tremonti :D Brian Marshall was good-this new dude seems like he'll be good. THats all
  6. Lovebown


    Jan 6, 2001
    Creed = good?

    Maybe, if you missed out on the christian rock bands of the 80s.

  7. They are not like the Christian rock bands of the 80s.I ought to know,I used to hang out in those circles.Creed doesn't claim to be a "Christian" band,however,they do have spiritual lyrics.But hey,maybe we ought to ask Sott Stapp himself if we want to know for sure.I don't mean to be argumentative,I hope it's not taken that way(No disrespect to the 80s Christian bands,but they were kind of cheesy and "Human Clay" is not a cheesy album.)
  8. Angus

    Angus Supporting Member

    Apr 16, 2000
    Palo Alto, CA
    Lovebown, why do i have to like the 80s Christian bands to like Creed?

    Oh well, it works. Im atheist and i dont like Creed.
  9. Christian rock bands? '80s?
    You can find your info there, where Stapp clearly states that they're NOT a Christian band, even though they have some 'Christian references'.
    Seriously now...if an Atheist refers to God, does that suddenly make him Christian? The only way that would work is if they accept God and declare their newfound belief in Him. Otherwise, they're still atheist.
  10. Lovebown


    Jan 6, 2001
    Musically, Creed sucks.

    They are playing a kind of 3rd generation grunge without tweaking or bringing anything new to the table. And worse thing is - they're earning millions copying what great rock bands like soundgarden did better in the early 90s. I can understand why bands like them piss off pretty much every other serious rock band in the buisness...

  11. Boplicity

    Boplicity Supporting Member

    But the commercial popularity of Creed clearly indicates that their music, however derivative it may seem, resonnates with many listeners. If there is a demand for such music, I see nothing wrong in providing it. I don't think every band has to "bring something new to the table." Some listeners are not seeking something new. They are quite satisfied with older styles.

    Furthermore, it may not be so much Creed's style, as the musicians themselves.

    They may actually admire Scott Stapp and view him as a refreshing contrast toangry rebellious metal rappers like those in Limp Bizkit, Rage Against the machine and Korn, but at the same time having more edge than N'Sync, Backstreet Boys and O-Town.

  12. Lovebown


    Jan 6, 2001

    Well, Creed is an extremly commercial band. They're not much better than n'nsync or those other bands (they dont deserve to be called that). I mean, they are a complete rip-off of grunge , but since grunge may seem a bit to rough-edged for the american mainstream audience they add their "spiritual" lyrics for the christians and let their frontmen pose topless on the cover of magazines to attract female fans.

    They're not about music, they're about fame and $$$.

    Simply put, creed is the package-deal band that you shouldn't buy.

  13. mchildree

    mchildree Supporting Member

    Sep 4, 2000
    Lovebown, if you haven't figured it out yet, there aren't very many people that are original any longer. Even the 90s bands you cite are derivative of some one else. But all of that is really a non-issue. I also don't get the hostility towards commercialism. You're telling me that if you devised something that gained mass appeal, you'd stop doing it just because it became "commercial"? Gimme a break....

    I, as well as about 99% of other musicians, LIKE things like popularity and getting paid for what we do. I imagine that Creed does also. However, I remember a time when they were playing clubs for little or nothing. Those guys paid their dues and the world came to them. They were'nt an overnight success. I find it inconceivable that someone would have a problem with that. Maybe a bit of jealousy?
  14. Damarunwolf


    Mar 22, 2000
    I second Mchildree's opinion. I always have to chuckle when someone (especially a musician) scoffs at the commercial success of other musicians, or in one sweeping, pompous motion dismisses ANY musical act because they've "made it" or "sold out" or are "too commercial". I don't know about any of you, but I play in front of people because I want the cheers, the leers from half-sober eyes, the mesmerized looks on the faces on the dance floor or at tables close to the stage when the combination of our lights and sound bathes them and takes them someplace else for a few minutes. And, I'd be a huge liar if I were to say I didn't want to see those same faces in groups of tens of thousands. I'm not a fan of Creed especially, but I'm a fan of music, and Creed, along with others far too numerous to mention, from "World Class" acts to local bands (from metal to R&B and everything in between) have at one time or another played SOMETHING that has taken me "to a place where blind men see". A closed mind is a terrible thing. :cool: And that's my .02 cents. Leave the change on the table...
  15. Lovebown


    Jan 6, 2001
    I have a problem with video/single type of bands like Creed. Bands should get famous by touring and playing great music, not by being hyped by the media. I mean, c'mon, its not like creed has a huge hardcore "underground" following from the "early days".

  16. mchildree

    mchildree Supporting Member

    Sep 4, 2000
    That's just what I'm trying to tell you. Creed has been running the club circuit for quite a while before they ever made a big splash and got the media attention. The time when they couldn't have paid anyone to make a video of them. I saw them several times during that period and they created a hell of a buzz every time they came around. I'm not a really big fan myself, but I see why other people like them.

    As I said before, none of that should matter. Millions of records sold shouldn't be scoffed at, regardless how it's accomplished. It's a business, an industry. That's what they signed the record deal to do. Of course, they could have turned down the labels and continued to starve...but why would that have been any more honorable? One thing I can say is that they aren't any different after the success than before it. Not that I can tell, anyway. Let them have their time...you should concentrate on your own time/space.
  17. I agree with you Jas.There really aren't many "new" rock bands anymore.In fact there aren't many bands that just play rock.To quote Scott Weiland of STP, "We aren't the best rock band in the world,but we are the last." Something like that.As far as angst,that's getting real old real quick.Alot of those ANGRY people are filthy rich...where's the need to be so pissed off? It doesn't make sense nor is it believable...BooHoo I'm angry ya'll.Waaahhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!
  18. Cornbread


    Jun 20, 2000
    Lawrence, Ma
    I'm going to chime in and say that I don't Creed at all. Their music stinks, and they're really full of themselves.
  19. Yeah. I have heard that they are a$$holes to their fans. Oh well. How about when we say we dislike a band we say "IMO...." instead of saying it like it's a fact, hehe... well, even if it IS a fact in your head. I does take SOME skill to make it famous (or at least in the rock/prog rock/punk/anything but pop).
  20. Lovebown


    Jan 6, 2001
    It takes skill to write a good pop song... in most cases not performing it though.


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