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Creeping incrementalism

Discussion in 'Off Topic [BG]' started by syciprider, Mar 3, 2008.

  1. syciprider

    syciprider Banned

    May 27, 2005
    Inland Empire
    Airgun ban coming to Scotland.

    Airgun ban takes a step forward

    The airgun issue is being considered by the city council. A move which could see Aberdeen become the first city in Scotland to ban airguns has taken a step forward. Councillor for Seaton, Norman Collie, hopes to end what he calls the yob culture associated with the weapons.

    Councillors agreed to refer the proposal to the local authority's policy and strategy committee.

    If approved, the Scottish Executive would have to approve a by-law. One shooting association said the moved seemed "a bit excessive".

    A number of people and animals have been injured in attacks in recent years, with damage caused to property.

    'Appreciate concerns'

    The Labour councillor argues airguns should be made illegal within Aberdeen's boundaries.

    Councillor Collie said: "The number of incidents involving airguns is creeping up across Scotland and something needs to be done about these weapons."

    James Scott, the British Association for Shooting and Conservation's (BASC) press and policy officer for Scotland, told the BBC Scotland news website: "We appreciate there are concerns in some areas.

    "Our premise is we have got existing legislation all of which should prevent the misuse of airguns if the legislation is properly enforced and the public suitably educated."

    More than eight in 10 people in Scotland would back a ban on airguns, according to a recent poll carried out on behalf of Glasgow MSP Tommy Sheridan.

    He said that 82% of the 1,000 respondents said they supported his proposal to restrict use.

    Aberdeen gun shop owner Neil Anderson previously said he agreed that using airguns illegally should result in harsh punishment, but that he did not feel they should be banned.

  2. Isn't "creeping incrementalism" redundant?

    If incrementalism didn't creep, would it still be incrementalism?

    If it it moved faster than creeping, then wouldn't it stop being incrementalism?

    Inquiring minds.......
  3. Marlat


    Sep 17, 2002
    London UK
    Good point.

    I am not sure where this thread is going, but that is a legitimate inquiry which should be addressed! :)
  4. Nikoubis


    May 3, 2007
    Athens, Greece
    Good idea, let's derail the thread. Syciprider is on to european governments and we can't let him reveal their cunning plans! :p
  5. Are airguns for shooting airheads or air-gitards?
  6. Baryonyx

    Baryonyx Banned

    Jul 11, 2005
    Marathon Man
    Airguns suck. If anyone generally cares about them being banned they should get a better hobby.
  7. syciprider

    syciprider Banned

    May 27, 2005
    Inland Empire
    Ah yes, let the continentals worry about the nuances of the language. It will keep them occupied while we work towards removing their right to have rolled up newspapers
  8. And what about rampant, unwavering & uncontrolled incrementalism?!? :eek:
  9. syciprider

    syciprider Banned

    May 27, 2005
    Inland Empire
    Apparently they are important enough to be a problem in Aberdeen.
  10. If that's all the gun use they have to worry about, it must be a truly great place.
  11. Diggler


    Mar 3, 2005
    Western PA
    They do put shallow dents in drywall that you don't notice until well after the airsoft battle between you and your son (while Mom isn't home).
  12. No, the article says that a ban is being considered, not that it's "coming". Ideas get considered, changed, and/or dropped all the time. It's called the democratic process. If you live in Aberdeen, feel free to participate.
  13. They also jam up the wifes vacuum cleaner causing her to to forbid indoor Airsoft battles :meh:

    Maybe it's just angry Moms in Scotland that are behind this?? :eyebrow:

    Wait until paintball catches on over there :eek:
  14. syciprider

    syciprider Banned

    May 27, 2005
    Inland Empire
    Oh it must be. They are very safe. In some parts of the island they have cameras that monitor you to ensure your well being.

    There are several kinds of democracy. Please tell me the one that you are talking about.
  15. syciprider

    syciprider Banned

    May 27, 2005
    Inland Empire
    Paintball is air powered no?
  16. MakiSupaStar

    MakiSupaStar The Lowdown Diggler

    Apr 12, 2006
    Huntington Beach, CA
    Personally I prefer the slippery slope so we can just get it over with. None of this pussyfooting around with creeping incrementalism crap.
  17. I'm not sure, but I saw a cartoon about it once. :smug:
  18. Diggler


    Mar 3, 2005
    Western PA
    The cartoon was actually about a representative republic.
  19. MakiSupaStar

    MakiSupaStar The Lowdown Diggler

    Apr 12, 2006
    Huntington Beach, CA
    Actually it was about a Bill.... On Capitol Hill.... :D
  20. *smb


    Nov 26, 2006
    In a few years they'll be banning water pistols.

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