Crispy highs and lo end punch, how to get them???

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by vene-nemesis, Sep 6, 2005.

  1. vene-nemesis

    vene-nemesis Banned

    Jul 17, 2003
    Bilbao España
    Since ive purchased my vigier and the tube preamp ive been trying to dial a rich tone but i cant seem to get a tone that has both lo end puch and crispy highs. So i ended up asking here what am i souposed to do after this to get that tone:

    Changing strings from stainless steel to nickel (Sad's bright nickels).
    Adjusting pickups to their proper height.

    Preamp (AMPEG svt-pro) settings:
    Gain:45% Drive: 50%, Bass: 75%, Mid: 60%, Mid freq: pos 5, treeble: 60%.
  2. BurningSkies

    BurningSkies CRAZY BALDHEAD

    Feb 20, 2005
    Seweracuse, NY
  3. Bassossorus


    Oct 21, 2004
    this works for me soooooo well:

    Modulus Q6 > Agie DB 750> Accugroove El Whappo & Tri210L

    its sick.
  4. Folmeister

    Folmeister Knowledge is Good - Emile Faber Supporting Member

    May 7, 2003
    Tomball, Texas
    Try this:

    Sadowsky->DB750->Whappo Jr.

    Works every time
  5. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Ampeg Amps, EMG Pickups
    Um, the dude has a Vigier, not a Modulus or Sadowsky. He's asking how to get more out of that bass.

    While the Vigier is more known for crispy high end than fat lows, it should easily be possible to get both out of it (or any bass).

    I'm not crazy about position 5 on the mid freq selector. I'm a dyed-in-the-wool position 3 man. I think position 5 washes out a lot of low end. otherwise, I think you're on the right track with the other stuff.
  6. vene-nemesis

    vene-nemesis Banned

    Jul 17, 2003
    Bilbao España
    Well im in europe and i find the agi a little expensive over here...

    Any other advise???
  7. pickles

    pickles Supporting Member

    Mar 23, 2000
    Ventura, CA
    start with:

    ultra low "on"
    ultra high "on"
    ultra bright "off"
    drive 0-10%
    bass 60%
    mid 60%
    mid freq 2
    high 50%

    If that is too "tame" then increase the drive up toward 50% (but no higher). If its too deep and not punchy enough, boost the mids a little more and/or try mid position 1.

    I just noticed you only have a 1x15 cabinet. Thats your problem. You need a good quality 2x10 to go with it.
  8. billfitzmaurice

    billfitzmaurice Commercial User

    Sep 15, 2004
    New Hampshire
    Owner, Bill Fitzmaurice Loudspeaker Design
    Your speaker lacks midrange capability. The 15 effectively ceases to work above 1kHz and the tweeter doesn't take over until about 2 octaves higher.
  9. Quality


    May 7, 2003
    Long Beach, CA
    Maybe try a dual band compressor with a crossover?
    I've tried this and it can get really crispy when you dig in but maintains a low punch if you go easy on the bass. It becomes a matter of attack.

    Of course this depends on your speaker setup.
  10. chaosMK


    May 26, 2005
    Albuquerque, NM
    Hi-fi into an old tube amp
    Cabs could help with this. Maybe SWR Goliath, but of course that's $.
  11. lo-freq

    lo-freq aka UFO

    Jan 19, 2003
    The Republic of Texas
    Schroeder 410 (if by crispy, you mean aggressive but still musical, get the Selenium tweeter option).
  12. Larzon


    Jan 15, 2005
    Mid freq: pos 1 or 2, midrange at 75% start with.