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Crown CE2000 or Carvin DCM2000?

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by BigBohn, Dec 2, 2001.

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  1. Dec 2, 2001 #1
    BigBohn

    BigBohn

    Sep 29, 2001
    WPB, Florida
    Which one? A very simple question I believe. Its a mix up between the 2 and both are about the same price, so any advice is welcomed.:)
     
  2. Dec 2, 2001 #2
    Phat Ham

    Phat Ham

    Feb 13, 2000
    DC
    Personally I would go for the Carvin. The Carvin DCM line of amps is on par with the QSC PLX series and other higher end amps. Some people even swear by them. The Crown CE2000 is more of a budget line. I don't have any experience with a Crown CE series amp though so they could be better than I think they are.
     
  3. Dec 2, 2001 #3
    BigBohn

    BigBohn

    Sep 29, 2001
    WPB, Florida
    Phat Ham, that's almost what I was thinking. The Carvin DCM2000 is at the top-of-the-line of the Carvin models, while the CE2000 is the "budget" amp of Crown. The Carvins look like the way to go.
     
  4. Dec 2, 2001 #4
    Jerry J

    Jerry J Supporting Member

    Mar 27, 2000
    P-town, OR
    I can't comment on the Carvin amps because I've never seen or heard one but the CE series may be the budget line but it is a Crown. They are very solidly built amps. Pretty nice amp. Crown really doesn't build a bad amp.
     
  5. Dec 3, 2001 #5
    Eric Moesle

    Eric Moesle

    Sep 21, 2001
    Columbus OH
    I've been using a Carvin DCM2000 for about a year now. Its a great amp for the money. A bit heavy, but well worth the headroom. I'd recommend it anyday.
     
  6. Dec 3, 2001 #6
    Mudbass

    Mudbass

    Jul 25, 2001
    The Republik of Kalifornia
    Personally, I'd trust even the lowliest Crown over even the flagship of the Carvin line. It's up to you of course, but I'd take a modestly equipped Mercedes over a fully loaded Ford any day.
     
  7. Dec 3, 2001 #7
    ThunderStik

    ThunderStik Guest

    Jun 25, 2001
    Claremore OK.
    I have been using a carvin DCM-1500 for a while now and it has been great. I would buy it again.
     
  8. Dec 3, 2001 #8
    lo-end

    lo-end

    Jun 15, 2001
    PA
    I would take the Ford :D

    But back on the subject, I have only heard bad reviews about the Crown CE series. I started a whole thread on this a month or two ago, and one guy said they had too much midrange and they colored your tone. Another guy said that Crown just got bought out and their reliability is suffering. Their amps have been burning up a lot lately for no apparent reason.

    Besides, I have heard good things about the Carvin amps. I would get one of those. Or just get a regular bass head like me :D
     
  9. Dec 3, 2001 #9
    BigBohn

    BigBohn

    Sep 29, 2001
    WPB, Florida
    Yeah, I remember reading a thread you did about this, yet I couldn't find it. Strange. And I do remember it saying about something that the Crowns colored the midrange freqs and stuff.

    Also, I've heard reports of the Crown K2s smoking and blowing out circuits. Crazy, ever since they were bought out. Thats sorry for Crown because I know used to know them as a respected leader in the poweramp industry. Now they're in the same pot with Firestone. Hmmph.
     
  10. Dec 3, 2001 #10
    Mudbass

    Mudbass

    Jul 25, 2001
    The Republik of Kalifornia
    I had a talk at great length with my repair guy about Crown amps and he confirmed that when Crown amps blow, they don't mess around...they really blow. But that doesn't change my mind. I'd still rather have a CE1000 over anything Carvin makes. As for the midrange thing, any bass preamp worth its salt will handle that easily.
     
  11. Dec 3, 2001 #11
    SRSiegel

    SRSiegel Guest

    Sep 17, 2001
    Ann Arbor, Michigan
    Personally...

    ...can I have a '64 Mustang?

    I have played in bands that have used both amps for PAs, and I liked teh Carvin better. I couldnt notice any difference of sound quality (that was due to the amp anyways) I woudl reccomend teh carvin as it looks more stable, its heavier, better built in my opinion and from experience. I can remember seeing the crown amp slammed down on a table once and hearing all kinds of things rattle. <sproing!!> whenever the carvin has been placed harshly somewhere, it just gives a big "THUD" very solid. We also didnt have as much problems with distortion or clipping with the Carvin poweramp. IME a much better, more reliable amp, better deal for the money.
     
  12. Dec 3, 2001 #12
    BigBohn

    BigBohn

    Sep 29, 2001
    WPB, Florida
    Oooh oooh, question, question, teacher, teacher!!!:

    Do the 2 different channels in a poweramp work totally independently, meaning if Channel A is with a 4 ohm cab, and Channel B is with an 8 ohm cab, will both cabs be able to run at their alotted wattage from the poweramp?

    :D
     
  13. Dec 3, 2001 #13
    embellisher

    embellisher Holy Ghost filled Bass Player Supporting Member

    Apr 18, 2000
    Heber Springs, Arkansas
    A good power amp should not color the sound in any way.
     
  14. Dec 3, 2001 #14
    Eric Cioe

    Eric Cioe Supporting Member

    Jun 4, 2001
    Holland, MI
    SRS has the right idea....if you drop it, you want it to work
     
  15. Dec 3, 2001 #15
    BigBohn

    BigBohn

    Sep 29, 2001
    WPB, Florida
    ARG!! BUMP!! My question, please??:rolleyes: :D
     
  16. Dec 3, 2001 #16
    leper

    leper

    Jun 21, 2001
    yes, theyre basically two seperate poweramps
     
  17. Dec 3, 2001 #17
    BigBohn

    BigBohn

    Sep 29, 2001
    WPB, Florida
    Alright leper, good answer. Thank you. :)
     
  18. Dec 3, 2001 #18
    thomas

    thomas

    Jul 26, 2000
    Barnesville, GA USA
    You've obviously never had to work on a Mercedes 190. Their 'cheap' cars are scary from a mechanics point of view.
     
  19. Dec 3, 2001 #19
    lo-end

    lo-end

    Jun 15, 2001
    PA
    QSC is probably the best thing thats left. Mackie is supposed to suck, and now that we know Crowns are unreliable its down to QSC and Crest. I would go with a QSC. Maybe Bob Lee can recommend one of their amps to you.
     
  20. Dec 3, 2001 #20
    lo-end

    lo-end

    Jun 15, 2001
    PA
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