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Crown power amps!!

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by lo-end, Oct 4, 2001.


  1. lo-end

    lo-end

    Jun 15, 2001
    PA
    I may be looking into a rack system. I am currently checking out power amps, and I like the Crown CE1000 amp. Its 1100 watts at 4 ohms, bridged, and it costs roughly $500.

    Are Crown power amps good and reliable? Do they color the tone or do any other monkey business? What about the CE series?

    I heard they were better than Mackies, so that's got to be good. Plus they look friggin' awesome:

    [​IMG]

    lets hear some input, please! :D
    (edited to change imput to input :rolleyes: )
     
  2. Chasarms

    Chasarms Casual Observer

    May 24, 2001
    Bettendorf, IA USA
    My church PA is powered by five Crown CE4000 amps. The music minister swears by them. He has another four of them powering the PA in the fellowship hall.

    Personally, I think they are very midrangey. We have extensive EQs and I still think that the mids are exagerated in both rigs.

    As far as reliability, in three years, I can't recall a single failure, and we have a total of nine.
    Chas
     
  3. lo-end

    lo-end

    Jun 15, 2001
    PA
    hmm... midrangey? that can't be good, I dont think.
     
  4. mgood

    mgood

    Sep 29, 2001
    Levelland, Texas
    Crown is one of the most reliable amplifier lines anywhere. The Crown micro-tech and macro-tech are the ones I'm more familiar with though. Crown is one of the most widely used amplifiers in the professional touring sound industry. No, they won't color your sound.

    Crown and Crest are the top dogs. QSC tries to be in the same legue, but I think they fall short of those two. Still good amps though. Carver is another big name up there.
     
  5. Bob Gollihur

    Bob Gollihur GollihurMusic.com

    Mar 22, 2000
    New Joisey Shore
    Big Cheese Emeritus: Gollihur Music
    I owned a CE1000. It was fine, sounded good, though got really ugly when it clipped. I now have a QSC 2402, which is also a great amp, and has a switchable clipping limiter and subsonic filter. it's also a helluva lot less heavy. If I had to make the choice again, I'd buy an equivalent QSC.
     
  6. lo-end

    lo-end

    Jun 15, 2001
    PA
    Hey Bob, did you think that the Crown sounded too midrangey like Chasarms pointed out? I really hope Crown power amps don't color your sound like that... I guess the only way to find out is to play one myself, but then again, I dont really have good ears for tone. :(

    What about Mackie power amps? Are they in the same "league"?
     
  7. Bob Gollihur

    Bob Gollihur GollihurMusic.com

    Mar 22, 2000
    New Joisey Shore
    Big Cheese Emeritus: Gollihur Music
    I didn't find it to be midrangy; I drove it with an Eden Navigator preamp, used it with an Eden 2x12 for a while, sometimes a Carvin 2x10, and then later with a Euphonic Audio VL-208 and 210. It seemed to be a basic power amp. Never A/B'd the same combination against the QSC, though.
     
  8. LOL :D
     
  9. virtual.ray

    virtual.ray

    Oct 25, 2000
    Crown amps rule.Next question.
     
  10. LuoLi

    LuoLi

    Apr 2, 2000
    Columbus, OH
    You might want to try the K series. They are about twice the pirce though. I talked to a guy at our sound reinforcement store and he said in compairson with the CE1000 and the K2, the CE1000 sounds like it has a pillow in the speaker. I haven't A/Bd them though.

    The thing to do is to take you amp and just use the preamp then test out some power amps.
     
  11. Tapp

    Tapp

    Aug 29, 2001
    USA, Mississippi
    How do the Crown's and Crest's compare to the Stewart World amps? I've heard really good things about the Stewart amps and they're portability is attractive.

    tapp
     
  12. Man, My first amp was a crown it was from like 1975 the thing weighed about 700 pounds and it put out twice as many watts. any ways I was bringing it to a gig one night and the thing fell through my trunk (granted it was like a 1982 ford escort, but goddammmm) any ways the the car behind me starts flashing his lights on and off and I look behind me and see the amp rolling down the street. So I am already thinking about what organ i can sell to get a new amp. When I finally get to the amp the thing looks like someone took a chain saw to it, But I get to the bar Plug it in and the thing sounds just like new. Any ways That may not answer all of you questions but I think it covers the reliable one.;)
     
  13. I work at a venue where the main sound guy uses a variety of crowns. We use the crowns to drive four 4x12 PA amps. They sound great and drive out a lot of sound. I would recommend them. I dont know about durability.:D
     
  14. mgood

    mgood

    Sep 29, 2001
    Levelland, Texas
    Amen!

    And people ask why I would pay so much more for what I consider a pro amplifier. There is your answer.

    I had a rack full of Crest amplifiers fall out of the back of a truck onto an asphalt parking lot once. The truck wasn't moving, but it was a long drop. I'm talking about a truck, not a pickup truck. What, four feet or so? The rack fell on its face. All of the amps had bent rack ears, and these Crest Professional Series have rack ears like armor plating. Some of the rack screws were broken. One of the amps ripped the head off the screws as it came out. We took the amps out of the rack, hammered the ears back into shape, put them back in the rack (with new screws) and turned it all on. There were like six amps in this rack, and every one of them worked perfectly!!!
     
  15. lo-end

    lo-end

    Jun 15, 2001
    PA
    looks like the crown k1 is definately my best bet. I will barely be able to afford it (have to put off getting a new bass for another year) but it will be worth it.

    the k1 has power up the wazoo, and it seems like a much higher quality power amp than the CE1000 was. It looks smaller and lighter too. Heres a pic I found:

    [​IMG]

    1500 watts @ 4 ohms bridged! yikes! :eek:
     
  16. I worked at a PA company that owns about 100 Crowns (Macrotechs, K series.) I only saw one Macrotech fail in 2 years of hard use. I saw a couple of K2s fail in their early days. Crown has since corrected the problem. I haven't experienced the CE series, but I would anticipate good reliability.
     
  17. virtual.ray

    virtual.ray

    Oct 25, 2000
    I believe Crown still makes the Power Base 3,which goes to about 1500 watts bridged @4 ohms,and costs around $750.No bells and whistles,just good sound and lots of it.
     
  18. Bob Lee (QSC)

    Bob Lee (QSC) In case you missed it, I work for QSC Audio! Gold Supporting Member Commercial User

    Jul 3, 2001
    Costa Mesa, Calif.
    Technical Communications Developer, QSC Audio
    In what way does QSC fall short?
     
  19. mgood

    mgood

    Sep 29, 2001
    Levelland, Texas
    I haven't used QSC or Crown near as much as I have Crest, but from what I have seen in systems used by touring sound companies, the QSC didn't seem to handle the abuse of the road quite as well as the other two.

    But,

    I'll admit that a lot of the road rash I've seen has been mostly cosmetic, broken knobs and stuff like that.

    Most of these companies use one amp or another, so it could be a case of one company taking better care of their gear than another does. But I know that Dallas Backup has Crest amps that have been in service since the mid eighties and are still going strong. And if anyone can abuse gear, they can.