D-410XLT sideways

No

 

You know, thats funny I was flipping the channels and wound up watching MTV's Cribs TV show, which is a show composed of cameramen going to celebrity houses. Well, they were some guy from PODs house, and they showed a shot of his garage, which was where the band practiced, and a bass rig with some Eden amplifier, not sure maybe a WT-800 or something, and it was hooked up to a Eden D-410XLT on its side, on top of a case of some sort. It was interesting to see it like this. The only advantage I would see of someone using it that way is that maybe the dispersal of the sound signal would be at a higher degree left to right, rather than up to down as the cabinet is constructed. That's probably the most logical explanation. If it works, rock on!

 

Hey Bob, sorry to hear you had repair troubles with the SVT. Everything's OK with the amp now is it? Turning the cabs sideways shouldn't make any noticeable difference. Where the ports are located makes minimal (if any) difference. About the cab-cab wiring thing: If both cabs are 8 ohms you need to come out of the main speaker output and jump between the two cabs. This presents a 4 ohm load to the 4 ohm tap on the op transformer. This is good. When you plug a 1/4 inch connector into the EXT out, it ungrounds the 4 ohm tap and uses the two ohm tap. So if you run an 8 ohm cabinet off each speaker jack you're driving a 4 ohm load with the 2 ohm tap. This isn't ideal. That being said, it probably won't damage the amp or speakers. You won't get the full power out of the amp and there is a chance that it could do some damage in the long term. It's not surprising that the amp sounds better with the speakers wired cab to cab. What I did was rewire my Goliath III to be 2 ohms, then I used a dummy 1/4 inch jack (with lots of pvc tape around the leads!) in the main output and connected the cab to the EXT out. Voila! 2 ohm box, 2 ohm tap. Note To everyone: I wouldn't reccommend doing this kind of thing unless you're comfortable working with electronics and know what you're doing!
So Bob, in general how are you liking the SVT? Are you convinced that it will be loud enough yet?

 

You have to watch out playing in those places with polarized air molecules. They come out of the ports with one polar orientation and when you stack the cabinets sideways to each other, the cross-polarizations cancel and leave a minuscule void in space-time, which then collapses into a singularity, or black hole. It could mean the end of the universe as we know it. Is Mikey serious??
- Mike

 

What's the SPL at the tuning frequency of the cabinet at the event horizon?

 

I'm glad someone asked. Expressed in complex numbers, it's -893.2 + j9138.07 dB. It's the imaginary part that dominates, so I'll leave it to the imagination what it sounds like.
- Mike

 

I run my D210XLT like this on shallow stages and it works very well. I thought I noticed a tightening of the bottom (maybe just slightly less).

 

No probelmo, Bobby. Killer rig.

 

No problem at all, I run both of mine upside down so the wheels go up and stay on top of the 118 cabs.


Mike

 

I use two 410XLT's and stack them on their sides so I don't have to remove all the casters. Sounds great, works fine. Nice rig by the way!

 

Actually Bob they dont, I replaced the small factory casters with a larger set to make them a little easier to roll around. I dont hear any rattle, accept from when I really crank it and you can hear the drummers teeth rattle.


Mike

 

This is really interesting. I'm going to have to try this with my Eden 4x10. I first got curious about it last month, when I went to see Mike Watt and he had two Eden 4x10s stacked on their sides. I asked him about it in his forum, and he said the stack was just more stable that way. But I had wondered if there might be any sonic advantages.

 

Plenty of folks put their cabs on their sides. I think some of the older Ampeg 8x10s had casters on the side instead of on the bottom.

It might even be a little better to place the cab on its side because more surface area is in contact with the floor.