Dare to Suc#

Discussion in 'Band Management [BG]' started by jthisdell, Dec 19, 2014.

  1. jthisdell


    Jun 12, 2014
    Roanoke, VA
    I am in a bluegrass three piece, guitar, banjo, a little fiddle, harmonica and bass (of course). We practice once a week and gig twice a month. All in mid 50's and all get along really well. No drama.

    At first our motto was "We don't take this too seriously". When making decisions, that was our guiding creed.

    Now that we have been together for two years and have a good playlist and have played a bunch of different gigs, our philosophy has evolved.

    Now it is "Dare to Suc#".

    And we mean this in a good way. As in, don't be afraid to take chances and push the envelope. Don't be too critical on yourself, because to the average ear we are much better than we think we are. As in, don't spend forever practicing something before playing it live. Go ahead and try it. Dare to Suc#. And we still do not take it too seriously. But having these two complimentary guiding principals has helped us get pretty dang good. And importantly, we have fun and our audiences can see that and then they have fun too.

    It helps that we are very compatible, musically and personally. We all do our homework and make ourselves available for practice and gigs and show up on time, etc. And we are all on a similar level talent-wise and there is no ego on stage. Which is why there is little drama.

    I see a lot of threads on here about practicing and practicing and practicing. I don't think you can get anywhere by trying too hard and taking everything too seriously.

    I challenge all my fellow TB'ers to Dare to Suc#.
    Last edited: Dec 19, 2014
  2. RustyAxe


    Jul 8, 2008
    Judging from the "talent" at an open mic I hosted recently I'd say there are a lot of people who agree with you. ;)
  3. you can say the word "suck" if you want to
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  4. mellowinman

    mellowinman Free Man

    Oct 19, 2011
    I'm confused.

    Dare to suc-hashtag?
    Dare to suc-sharp?
    Dare to suc-poundsign?

    I just can't get it.
  5. ConnManX


    Jun 12, 2013
    Houston, TX
    I was once told by a fellow bassist that overcoming your fear of making mistakes is the point where your musicianship will start improving.
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  6. jthisdell


    Jun 12, 2014
    Roanoke, VA
    To clarify, the hash tag is my attempt to comply with any TB rules regarding profanity.
  7. mellowinman

    mellowinman Free Man

    Oct 19, 2011
    OK. I don't think "suck" or "sucks" constitute profanity anymore.

    I do remember when they did!
  8. Sometimes you just have to try something to see if you can do it.
    There have been times when our gui****/bandleader would have a few
    drinks and launch off into something we had never tried to play before...
    on stage!
    It amazed me that it worked, sometimes quite well.
  9. OldCityBassman


    Nov 10, 2014
    True enough, heck we can always fall back on the roots and let the guitar player suck!
  10. strictlybass_ic

    strictlybass_ic Mediocrity is a journey

    Jan 9, 2014
    Northern Indiana
    My original project's motto "suck and be happy". As in even if you suck it up, have fun with it. Be happy, be grateful that you're doing something you love, and enjoy it. The audience will often pick up on it and even a bad song can go over really well.
  11. bassinflorida

    bassinflorida turn that dang thing down

    Jan 27, 2014
    Tampa, FL
    What happens if you 'dare to suck' and then succeed?
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  12. PopFizz


    Jun 8, 2013
    Either you don't suck, or you achieve your goal. Win/win situation.
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  13. I spend a fair bit of time pushing faders. In my efforts to make a band sound their best, I would often under-mix a player who was "succeeding" only to have said player's girlfriend/wife/self appointed manager bee line it to me and complain that they couldn't hear them enough, apparently not aware how truly awful they were playing. After years of this, I adopted a new motto: "Let them suck out loud". And often they do...
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  14. A few months ago I was at an open mic I attend off and on. Getting later Geezer shows up. Now Geezer has an epic talent for being musically brilliant and clearing a room at the same time, with or without a skinful of bourbon.

    Geezer plays only original blues, of no recognisable chord progression, with impeccable timing but extra beats and missing beats, in a modern vertical dance style. A rolling trainwreck to jam with.

    What I do is either leave him to it for a couple of progressions, or abandon it altogether if it's too much guaranteed suckage. Dare to suck not so much as dare to suck so bad they blame me.

    This night was pretty dead so the dare to suck factor was fairly low. Geezer breaks out this strange new thing that the guitar player bops to without playing. I get it, it's fusion jazz blues infusion.

    Now it's important to realise I am the lint under a fusion bassist's toenail. But I dive in with my best impersonation. I dared to SUCK.

    The host guitar man knows all the chords. He got it in two measures. Geezer looks over, it wasn't what he was expecting but he digs it.

    The barflys got it.


    It may be ten years until the next fusion jazz gets played there.
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  15. Metalstevey


    Dec 1, 2014
    practice hard, play easy?
  16. Hi,

    It's been said to me often, one of my favorite compliments for the band is "Ya know, y'all don't suck too bad."

    Thank you for your indulgence,

  17. brianrost

    brianrost Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 26, 2000
    Boston, Taxachusetts
    It's important to have fun, but I have never met a great musician (and I've worked with many) who were not dead serious about it at some point in their life.

    Now for three guys in their 50s playing bluegrass, I suppose I wouldn't get too serious either :roflmao:
  18. bassinflorida

    bassinflorida turn that dang thing down

    Jan 27, 2014
    Tampa, FL
    Most Excellent!
  19. zontar


    Feb 19, 2014
    I will appreciate a musician who takes chances and maybe doesn't quite pull it off more than a musician who simply plays it safe.When I taught I tried to get students to develop their own style and acknowledged sometimes that means they fail--but they can learn from it, and the experiences is invaluable.
  20. Gaolee

    Gaolee Official leathers tester and crash dummy

    I play covers with a bunch of friends, and our rules for playing out are:

    1. Don't suck.
    2. See rule #1.

    Mostly, though, we have a good time.