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Darkglass - Alpha Omega

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by Ross McLochness, Jan 20, 2017.


  1. Ross McLochness

    Ross McLochness Living Room Bassist Extraordinaire Supporting Member

    Aug 20, 2013
    Eden Prairie, MN
  2. dcbassist5

    dcbassist5 Supporting Member

    May 11, 2011
    Baltimore, MD
    Endorsing Artist: Ashdown, Lakland, Hardwire
    And overpriced!
     
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  3. NoxNoctus

    NoxNoctus The Crushinator

    May 9, 2004
    Annapolis, MD
    9325080020.
     
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  4. willsellout

    willsellout Supporting Member

    Aug 13, 2002
    Fort Wayne, IN
    Sweetwater Employee
    I'll be interested to hear comparisons. How many distortion circuits can you come up with that are truly unique?
     
  5. Andy westwood

    Andy westwood

    Nov 30, 2014
    PedalBoard Solutions
    really looking forward to hearing this! love jons drive sound so this might be my first darkglass pedal!

    Andy
     
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  6. NoxNoctus

    NoxNoctus The Crushinator

    May 9, 2004
    Annapolis, MD
    Considering how "different" Stockman's tone is from the "norm", it's pretty unique sounding. It's a combination of the Warwick growl, the B7K, The ODB3 I think he uses in there as well, his Ashdown amp, capturing all of those overtones and layers in a bottle is pretty special
     
  7. willsellout

    willsellout Supporting Member

    Aug 13, 2002
    Fort Wayne, IN
    Sweetwater Employee
    I found that the B7K could get his tone without much work. So if anyone already has some DG products you don't really "need" to grab this. I'm sure out will be a cool pedal. Jon's tone live is something else. I'm very interested to hear this pedal.
     
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  8. Leonidas

    Leonidas

    May 25, 2016
    Greece


    Brutal indeed!!
     
  9. Ross McLochness

    Ross McLochness Living Room Bassist Extraordinaire Supporting Member

    Aug 20, 2013
    Eden Prairie, MN
    Yeah, there definitely on the spendy side of things.
     
  10. NoxNoctus

    NoxNoctus The Crushinator

    May 9, 2004
    Annapolis, MD
    Plenty of cheap clones of TS and RAT circuits out there
     
  11. CoarseBass

    CoarseBass

    Dec 28, 2002
    I'm actually really curious what the two circuits look like. Doug isn't a clone guy, but what inspirations, feedback types, EQ, etc are in there?

    Can't wait for real demos, and hopefully comments from Jon himself on the design.
     
  12. Loads of grunt in this pedal.
     
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  13. Original product, not a knockoff or a copy of something done already.
     
  14. Darkglass

    Darkglass Gold Supporting Member Commercial User

    Dec 10, 2008
    Helsinki, Finland
    Douglas Castro, Founder: darkglass.com
    Thanks!

    Quick description:

    The main reference and inspiration were the sounds Jon and I had in mind.

    We didn't even want to look at my older designs for the distortion sections.

    The EQ though is extremely similar to the B7K one (I did some simulations of different EQ circuits but the B7K topology remained the best suited for this type of device).

    Both Alpha and Omega overdrive circuits are fully opamp based (unlike the Microtubes series which rely JFETs and CMOS in conjunction to opamps for saturation).

    All nonlinearity comes from cascading gain stages and active filters (the Bite switch is a controllable one).

    Making a totally new design was something I wanted to do for a while.

    I found that there was something with the inherent touch response and attack that feels very fast and responsive (whereas the CMOS based have a bit of sag-like touch response).

    It's truly hard to verbalize and explain so I'll just hurry up and set up some demos ASAP.

    Hopefully some of the forum members who came to the booth today can help me describe until we get some videos done.

    Thanks and regards from Anaheim. This show is going amazingly well!

    Regards,
    D.
     
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  15. CoarseBass

    CoarseBass

    Dec 28, 2002
    Sounds awesome man, as always, appreciate the response!
     
  16. monsterthompson

    monsterthompson The Eighth Note Wonder Of The World Supporting Member

    Nov 25, 2008
    Hollywood
    Interesting new thing is interesting. I'm sure I'll have a crusty opinion, but I'll wait until I've heard it before I pass judgement. The features look nice, and DG has certainly been trying to push envelopes and listening to customers.
     
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  17. The best part is he listens to those opinions. I don't think Doug minds criticism.

    Seems he enjoys a challenge.(Going by his IG and self-torture with weights:roflmao: )
     
  18. monsterthompson

    monsterthompson The Eighth Note Wonder Of The World Supporting Member

    Nov 25, 2008
    Hollywood
    He's not the only one. But I won't torture anyone here with my pictures.
     
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  19. Snowglo

    Snowglo Pro Aris et Focis Supporting Member

    Nov 15, 2013
    Orygun
    U.S. Military endorsement since 1984
    Very cool Doug! I would like to hear clips of lower drive settings.
     
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  20. I need to lift for my upper body. I lay tile which helps(recovering from shoulder surgery, and 90% there), but I do enjoy torturing myself on my fixed gear bike. I used to lift a LOT in my teens and 20's. I wanted to be Franco Columbu as a kid, haha(actually, Arnold as well but I'm Franco-height, lolol)
     
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