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David Wm. Simms (The Jesus Lizard)

Discussion in 'Bassists [BG]' started by Ad Nauseam, Dec 3, 2001.

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  1. Dec 3, 2001 #1
    Ad Nauseam

    Ad Nauseam

    Nov 21, 2001
    East Bay, CA. and Denver, CO.
    Anyone ever listen to the guy play? He is one of my favorite bassists and had some influence over my playing style. But I haven't heard of him doing anything after The Jesus Lizard broke up. Sad, I only got to see him once live.
     
  2. Jan 20, 2002 #2
    Ad Nauseam

    Ad Nauseam

    Nov 21, 2001
    East Bay, CA. and Denver, CO.
    'scuse me while I bump this thread!
     
  3. Jan 22, 2002 #3
    mecha hooch

    mecha hooch Guest

    Jan 15, 2002
    jacksonville,fl
    i highly agree with you on the david wm. sims...flawless man...i don't think that guy looks at his bass one time when he plays live...he just stares at the ceiling...hoping david yow doesn't knock him over...saw them twice...1st time i saw them i'd have to say maybe in the top 10 best shows i've seen...haven't had of anything from david sims after the lizard...duane denison is in tomahawk w/ mike patton...kevin rutamis(sp)...and john stainer...you should check it out if you already haven't
     
  4. Jan 22, 2002 #4
    Ad Nauseam

    Ad Nauseam

    Nov 21, 2001
    East Bay, CA. and Denver, CO.
    Oh believe me, I have checked out Tomahawk! They came through here in November... Great show!
    I hope that DWS gets together with Steve Albini again. I wish I had gotten a chance to talk to Duane at the show, I bet he knows what DWS is up to.

    ~Ad

    And a very warm welcome to TalkBass, mecha hooch! I hope you stcik around and enjoy this place as much as I do!
     
  5. Jan 22, 2002 #5
    mecha hooch

    mecha hooch Guest

    Jan 15, 2002
    jacksonville,fl
    hey man ...i heard denver is a really nice play to play...atleast thats what chris spencer from cuthroats 9 said...we played with them in november i believe it was...and he said me and the band should play denver...i dunno? never really had much out of denver (music wise) before...just curious...pretty long list of equipment...i guess you've been playing awhile...what other bands do you like...i pretty much like harder bands like high on fire w/ matt pike from sleep...melvins...no means no...shellac...kyuss...but the list goes on and on...w:rolleyes:
     
  6. Jan 22, 2002 #6
    Ad Nauseam

    Ad Nauseam

    Nov 21, 2001
    East Bay, CA. and Denver, CO.
    We get some pretty decent shows here and a pretty good draw if on the right night. The scene is a hit or miss sort of thing, it comes and goes.

    Here comes a list of influences and listens and such:

    Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds/The Birthday Party/Einsturzende Neubauten, Big Black/shellac/rapeman, The jesus lizard/scratch acid, Fugazi/minor threat/embrace, Tom Waits, 50 Tons Of Black Terror, Cop Shoot Cop/Firewater, The Cramps, The Clash, Dead and gone/creeps on candy, joy division, bauhaus, misfits, black flag, the exploited, social d., murder city devils, the blackheart procession, Pigface, The Swans, coil/current 93/death in june, the laughing hyenas, johnny cash, dead kennedy's, and on and on and on.... :D

    ~Ad
     
  7. Jan 23, 2002 #7
    mecha hooch

    mecha hooch Guest

    Jan 15, 2002
    jacksonville,fl
    black heart procession is great have you every seen them live...the singer has a bob barker mic...pretty cool stuff...check out the 4 carnations..similar bands...i believe its a t&g band can't really remember...hey, i have a question i have a fender j-bass mim...stock pu...i want to upgrade pu's...and maybe put in a built in pre-amp...any suggestions on brands...also do you use a compresser on your live rig
     
  8. Jan 23, 2002 #8
    mecha hooch

    mecha hooch Guest

    Jan 15, 2002
    jacksonville,fl
    do you have the one with the mini humbuckers and the sidewinder...i'm looking for another bass and have always wanted one of those...i played the gibson model and loved it..is there much diffence in the two...
     
  9. Jan 23, 2002 #9
    mecha hooch

    mecha hooch Guest

    Jan 15, 2002
    jacksonville,fl
    i have a ampeg 610hlf...i'm thinking about getting a 410hlf and also uses my b100r in my rig...that way i can have four 10s and a 15...i'm using a 350svt...but may trade for a new b-2r....all are 4 ohms output...would this be all right...i need more lows for my sound...i'm going for a rob wright, or like a bob weston sound...sorry i'm not going to use the 610hlf...and how would i tie the two...sorry don't know that much about multi-cabs...i don't won't to lose any power in the svt-350 or b-2r which every i use
     
  10. Jan 23, 2002 #10
    Ad Nauseam

    Ad Nauseam

    Nov 21, 2001
    East Bay, CA. and Denver, CO.
    Have I seen Blackheart Procession? My band; The Bedraggled, opened for them in San Diego last summer. It was us, Album Leaf and The Blackheart Procession... a sold out show at the Casbah.

    I don't even play my Epiphone anymore. I think they stopped making the model that I have. It has PJ Pickups and a reverse headstock.

    As far as the Amp question is concerned, you should post a thread for it on the Amps page. I Bi-amp my SWR into a 410 and an 18, withthat I get plenty of everything! The head is 900 watts, but it was made to be coupled with the cabinets... I haven't the foggiest when it comes to ohms and the like, sorry!

    I've been downloading some cool stuff from Dead And Gone, ever hear of them? They have a new singer and changed their name to Creeps On Candy... now I guess they're going to keep Dead And Gone. I prefer their new singer to their old one. Check them out on www.alternativetentacles.com
    Yup, Jello Biafra's lable!

    ~Ad
     
  11. Jan 23, 2002 #11
    Ad Nauseam

    Ad Nauseam

    Nov 21, 2001
    East Bay, CA. and Denver, CO.
    Oh, forgot about the Jazz pickup question. The main thing is: do you really want to upgrade it that much? It's passive now, right? In order to upgrade it to active you will need room for both the active circuit AND a 9volt battery... you may have to do some routing if you can't stuff it all in.
    IMO, here are the three best pickup company's:
    www.bartolini.net
    www.emginc.com
    www.basslines.com

    A pair of Bartolini's will run you about $160, slightly less if you go with Basslines and slightly more if you go with EMG's. Those are the prices without an active preamp as well.

    There are other ways to beef up the tone of your bass for little cash. Have you tried a Tech 21 SansAmp BassDriver? They are an outboard preamp/direct box for less than $200. I use one, especially when recording.
    Aguilar and Fodera and others make some great outboard preamps as well. I bet you could find tons of stuff if you do a search for "outboard preamps" here.
    Hope this helped!

    ~Ad
     
  12. Jan 25, 2002 #12
    mecha hooch

    mecha hooch Guest

    Jan 15, 2002
    jacksonville,fl
    bobby ray is awesome...nice bass tone...nice fills as well...my band play wednesday night...the bill 4 local bands and we played last which was around 12:30 ...man we were all drunk as hell...so need less to say not our best show to date...last friday we open for burning brides...pretty cool show...maybe 150 to 200 people in front...i wish it was like that all the time...put me in a really nice mood
     
  13. Feb 7, 2002 #13
    mecha hooch

    mecha hooch Guest

    Jan 15, 2002
    jacksonville,fl
    david sims two cabs...15s or 18s can't remember i know he uses a gk 800rb...i've seen some traynor amps as well...and what pedals if any don't remember
     
  14. Feb 8, 2002 #14
    Ad Nauseam

    Ad Nauseam

    Nov 21, 2001
    East Bay, CA. and Denver, CO.
    I think he used 15's. everything else i'm not sure about. I'll try to pay some close attention to the Jesus Lizard shows I have taped.

    ~Ad
     
  15. Feb 8, 2002 #15
    mecha hooch

    mecha hooch Guest

    Jan 15, 2002
    jacksonville,fl
    how many shows do you have taped...do you want to sell any? i read something yesterday about the sound he gets on mailman (shot)...svt classic...gk 800rb...dietz cabs and a 50w traynor tube head...i have a picture of him using a turbo rat as well...thats about all i know on his rig...would like to find out more...what i want to know is whats in that head bob weston using...i knob...i wondering if its a head inside a case...don't know:confused:
     
  16. Feb 8, 2002 #16
    Ad Nauseam

    Ad Nauseam

    Nov 21, 2001
    East Bay, CA. and Denver, CO.
    I have three different shows. I think they're all in Texas. It's sometime between Down and Shot. I know they play Mailman on one or two. It's mainly the same set for all shows.
    I have been meaning to make copies but just haven't had the time, money or equipment. I have a second VCR but it's only a two head and sucks.
    I really don't know too much about the bass rigs that DWS used, I always liked his '70's Jazz Bass, though!
    ~Ad
     
  17. Apr 22, 2007 #17
    greymatter_24

    greymatter_24

    Mar 6, 2007
    Bloomington, IN
    This thread looks pretty dead, but I'm new here and I'll give this a shot anyway...David Wm. Sims has been at the top of my bass players list since I first heard the Jesus Lizard and Scratch Acid about a billion years ago. Saw the Jesus Lizard twice but never thought enough to check out what DWS was playing. Anybody have any details about what basses/amps/effects etc. he uses? I see there some limited info on amps in the thread already...is there anything more to add to this?
     
  18. Apr 23, 2007 #18
    GillesUnchained

    GillesUnchained

    Nov 3, 2005
    Portland, OR
    David Sims is one of my all time favs too. Especially his tone. And he has some of the SICKEST basslines in rock music.

    For amp info, I'd check the Jesus Lizard videos on Youtube, and there is a Jesus Lizard fansite that has some good photos too. I posted a David Sims picture looking for an amp ID (http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=316066) in the "amps" section. The photo is supposedly from the recording session for "Goat". Someone said it was a solid state Traynor. I've only seen the 800RB in any of the live videos. Except for after they got a big label deal, it looks like he used a tube Ampeg.
     
  19. Apr 23, 2007 #19
    Matt Till

    Matt Till

    Jun 1, 2002
    Edinboro, PA
    Just gotta say, he's a killer bassist. The vocals for Jesus Lizard are a bit of a turn off, but the music is amazing, especially the tone and feel of the rhythm section.
     
  20. Apr 23, 2007 #20
    greymatter_24

    greymatter_24

    Mar 6, 2007
    Bloomington, IN
    I've got to vehemently disagree about David Yow's vocals. Nothing else would suit the violence and insanity of the music. I think it's great, but each to his own.

    Actually, my group of friends found out about Scratch Acid and the Jesus Lizard around the same time. One of my friends hated the vocals for the Jesus Lizard but loved the vocals for Scratch Acid...he wasn't too pleased when someone pointed out that it was the same guy (singing in pretty much the same style).

    I've spent a lot of time in the past trying to emulate David Wm. Sim's snappy tone without any real success. Maybe snappy isn't the right word for it...
     
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