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DB/string identification- Ideas?

Discussion in 'Basses [DB]' started by chicabass, Mar 18, 2006.


  1. chicabass

    chicabass

    Mar 18, 2006
    NOT USA
    Hi, brief introduction.
    I'm a long-time reader, but new to posting here. Hi.

    Please, could I get some hints as to what this bass may be (I am told it is around 50 years old) and also what type of strings is has on it?
    I am just starting to play double bass. I am setting my sights on playing more classically-oriented music, and enjoy playing arco more. (Not that this information will help identify the strings or the bass!)

    *fumbles awkwardly*

    Link to pictures of the bass-

    http://dominatriant.com/ljimage/doublebaby.jpg
    http://dominatriant.com/ljimage/doublebaby1.jpg
    http://dominatriant.com/ljimage/doublebaby11.jpg
    http://dominatriant.com/ljimage/doublebaby111.jpg
    http://dominatriant.com/ljimage/doublebaby1V.jpg
    http://dominatriant.com/ljimage/doublebabyV.jpg
    http://dominatriant.com/ljimage/doublebabyV1.jpg

    http://dominatriant.com/ljimage/front.jpg
    http://dominatriant.com/ljimage/back.jpg


    Cheers,

    chicabass/K`
     
  2. M Ramsey

    M Ramsey

    Mar 12, 2005
    North Carolina
    Perhaps if you could get some really clear shots of the strings as they are attched to the tailpiece, it may help in identifying what strings you have.

    Most (but maybe not all) strings have a distinctive pattern of colors at the ball end of the string. Also, a picture of the pegbox and the colors of the ends of the strings there would be helpful.

    Not tht I'm an expert in string ID, but maybe some others here could help you.
     
  3. chicabass

    chicabass

    Mar 18, 2006
    NOT USA
    Thanks so much!

    I will get some full pics of back and front for you.
     
  4. chicabass

    chicabass

    Mar 18, 2006
    NOT USA
  5. chicabass

    chicabass

    Mar 18, 2006
    NOT USA
    Follow up-

    I think I've identified the bass via (hello, hello) other threads in this forum. I still lack a clear idea of when this (Entry-level ~1960 German) bass was made, though.

    chicabass/K`
     
  6. KSB - Ken Smith

    KSB - Ken Smith Banned Commercial User

    Mar 1, 2002
    Perkasie, PA USA
    Owner: Ken Smith Basses, Ltd.
    Who said this is a Wilfer? To me, from the pics you posted it looks to be a Plywood Bass. My guess would be Germany from around 1960 but not Wilfer. All the Wilfers I have seen are fully carved Basses. Lang made many plywood Basses in that period and sold to the same importers that Wilfer did. These Basses often have many different brands but coming from only a few commercial German factories.
     
  7. chicabass

    chicabass

    Mar 18, 2006
    NOT USA
     
  8. KSB - Ken Smith

    KSB - Ken Smith Banned Commercial User

    Mar 1, 2002
    Perkasie, PA USA
    Owner: Ken Smith Basses, Ltd.
     
  9. chicabass

    chicabass

    Mar 18, 2006
    NOT USA
    German Shop Bass c.1950

    Updated my profile soon after I got some feedback in this thread, and I'd been given that 'window' of after-war/before 1980 by the seller, but thought people might have a better insight on that in here! :)

    I hate having to say I'm in Australia.

    Thanks for your help!

    The sexy neck and sound were some main things that appealed to me about this bass.
    The purfling is 'trivial' (although real?).
    It feels great, and has an ebony fingerboard which was just reshaved.

    I did a lot of reading in the TB forum before looking for double basses!

    chicabass/K`
     
  10. Well, that's the most important thing, isn't it? I was thinking maybe a Hofner or a Rubner Copy, it has that "look"
    but if it sounds good to you it's awesome! :cool:
     
  11. jmpiwonka

    jmpiwonka

    Jun 11, 2002
  12. chicabass

    chicabass

    Mar 18, 2006
    NOT USA
    Mmm...

    They musn't be oliv's then.
    *quickly checks strings for more detail*

    The wrapping at the endpin is solid yellow wrapped in a red spiral of thread and then a cm worth of solid red wrapping, above the yellow.

    Pegbox -

    Green E
    Black/blue A
    Red D
    Yellow/grimy G

    chicabass/K`
     
  13. :confused: I'm stumped, then. My call was based on what I could see from your first set of Pics. Obviously these are the strings that were on the Bass when you got it, yes? Well, I Can't say for sure,but maybe they are a brand not made anymore.
     
  14. chicabass

    chicabass

    Mar 18, 2006
    NOT USA
    Actually I'm just confused now too.

    Mustn't be made anymore.

    Checked a page that showed spirocores. They're not that either.

    I call off the search! (-;

    chicabass/K`

    [Ja they were on the bass when I bought it. Must be very old. Thinking of changing them for something newer, so maybe I have something sharper to practice my ear with?]
     
  15. Matthew Tucker

    Matthew Tucker Commercial User

    Aug 21, 2002
    Sydney, Australia
    Owner: Bresque Basses, Sydney Basses and Cellos
    I don't!

    The bass my daughter uses at school has the same pegbox winding colours, but a short purply-red winding at the tailpiece end.

    Its a rather neglected suzuki bass and probably had the same strings since it was born in 1975. But last night I changed the inaudible E string for one of my old spirocores, and refit the sound post where it was supposed to be, and degunked the rosewood board, and now it sounds and plays like a bass again!

    We all very happy now. Its all very well for the bandmaster to ask my girl to play with more growl but if the bass won't do it what hope does she have?

    Now I just have to try to convince the school they need to send the bass off for maintenance every now and then like all the other instruments they have.
     
  16. chicabass

    chicabass

    Mar 18, 2006
    NOT USA
    Sounds like a lot of work needed by that bass, are you sure the school hasn't been trying to tweak profit/loss and make students play planks of wood? (-;

    I'm excited for your daughter now anyhows. I can just imagine her taking a wealth more inspiration from the better set-up bass.

    Trying to think back to if I'd actually started to <i>care</i> about sound, back in school. Hmmm.

    The strings I have on now are great, very mellow and round for pizzicato, but defined and growly for arco. The G is maybe a little too bold for my liking!
    The E however... very impressive. And yes, I think these strings are 'getting on' in age.
    Very soft on the fingers, and easy enough to play (Not that I have much experience playing different double bass strings hah).
    I'd really like to be able to get a new set just like it but obviously that's not possible. Maybe I'll ask in at the shop for a replacement that's similar. When I change strings *projects light years ahead*.

    Very happy with the bass too. From what I've read, it seems I was offered a better deal than a lot of people.
    Sometimes I think I need to be careful what I wish for, cause I might just get it- Now I have to follow through!

    Full of c... onversation :)

    chicabass/K`
     
  17. chicabass

    chicabass

    Mar 18, 2006
    NOT USA

    I asked the seller of the bass.

    Pirastro Chromcores.



    I feel deflated now, after waiting for some dark 'mystery string' set :|


    chicabass/K`
     
  18. Check around this site, there are a lot of string, uh, enthusiasts (freaks) ;) who have slightly used sets for sale cheap...