I'm in a bit of an iffy spot. The band I'm in is a collection of friends, mostly older guys with too much money/time on their hands. They're average players, at best, and that's being nice. The lead guitarist has the most band experience, but he put the guitar down for years and is just now getting up to speed (his solos are pretty jerky and don't really flow, we're starting to give the singer more leads as he can play), the drummer hasn't played since highschool but can manage simple lines with some flash, and the rhythm guitarist... well... let's just say he left his guitar and amp in his car for a solid week... in the winter! The singer and I are easily the top musicians in the band, both technically and knowledge wise. They're all great guys and friends, but the problem lies in the direction and aspirations of the members. I see this as a fun experience, people to play with and a way to improve myself as a player. I'm not one to quit on people, so I plan to see this thing through to the end. The other members of the band see it as something they're just doing for fun, however the lead has visions of granduer. Most of our gigs have been private parties, which is all well and good, but our name is starting to get out there. Which is where the problem comes up. The lead is starting to drive up our asking price and wants to go all out adding songs (he's also the type who only wants to play what he likes), getting lights, smoke, etc, etc. He really wants to live out his dream of being a rock star. On the other hand, the drummer is getting better and is having fun, but doesn't see this lasting more than a few years. He's told me many times if we wanted to go a different way he would support us 100% (he's been a big part in the singer and I getting gigs as an acoustic duo). Then there's the rhythm guitar player. He's loving the limelight, however he does not practice and is seriously holding us back. He leads a very busy life, which we understand, but he also very regularly pushes aside band responsibilities for social functions (dinner with the neighbors, lunch with some friends, etc, etc). He loves the band as it's a break from his regular life, but he is not making the commitment to get better, and it shines through horribly in his playing and when we practice. It'll take an hour to work through a 12 bar blues song because he doesn't understand the progression. Then there's me, I'm the band leader in that I'm trying to keep everyone in check musically, but it'd probably be easier to teach my bass guitar how to land a jet on an aircraft carrier. My problem is trying to deal with the disconnect in direction between the lead and the other players, as well as getting the rhythm guitarist in check (or kicking him out.) I'm not the loudest most demanding guy, but I'm getting frustrated. We're all friends, but it seems like the lead just doesn't listen and does his own thing (he has no shame at all, so being loud and terrible is better to him than being soft and awesome), the rhythm doesn't seem to understand his problems (always says "the band sounds off" when it's him), while the rest of us are just looking to have a good time. I'm really lost as to what to do/say here. The Rhythm has talked to us already promising he would practice (twice), and he clearly is not. He's a social guy, so I think offering him the manager spot and letting him chat on the mic and sit in on the occasional song would keep him happy, but I'm not sure it would be wise to switch up guitarists like that. Also, how the hell do I get a guy with no shame to understand his shortcomings and bring him down to earth? They're all great guys, so my biggest fear is sore egos and hurt feelings.