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Denzel Washington... lame

Discussion in 'Off Topic [BG]' started by Mike Money, Jul 31, 2004.

  1. Mike Money

    Mike Money Banned

    Mar 18, 2003
    Bakersfield California
    Avatar Speakers Endorsing Hooligan
    All he ever does in his movies is get screwed by the rich white guy... so he has to go vigilante and kill said rich white guy.

    Well, except the preachers wife. and remember the titans...

    Seriously... can't he do something else?
  2. Adam Barkley

    Adam Barkley Mayday!

    Aug 26, 2003
    Jackson, MS

    Courage Under Fire? That movie with Russel Crow? Pelican Brief?

    Nope I guess you're right, all he does is "go vigilante on the white guy"
  3. Aaron Saunders

    Aaron Saunders

    Apr 27, 2002
  4. Sonorous


    Oct 1, 2003
    Denton, TX
    I like Denzel. Not in that way.
  5. DigMe


    Aug 10, 2002
    Waco, TX
    Ah, that Mike Money, all he does is start threads about Denzel Washington.

    brad cook
  6. Sure, Denzel seems to play a lot of similar roles, but it's something I personally feel he does rather well. Man on Fire was one of my favorite films in the past couple of years, largely because of Denzel's performance.

    But then again, I find I usually find a part of the plot of any given film that I feel I can associate with, rather than one of the characters, since so many films now have such famous faces in them I just can't believe 100% that they're real.
  7. radi8


    Feb 10, 2004
    Denzel gets into his characters so well, it looks effortless.
    Gary Oldman is the same way.
    might want to go back and check out some of his other work: Malcolm X,Pelican Brief,The Hurricane,Soldier's Story.....
  8. Zirc


    May 13, 2001
    Los Angeles
    How about Ricochet. John Lithgow isn't a rich white guy. Or Antwone Fisher?

    I think Mike Money just has Denzel envy :p
  9. Denzel does seem to play in a lot of movies that have race related conflicts, but not always. I'll admit, he is not the most versatile actor in the world, but what he does he does well, so I still like him. One of my favorites is "Fallen"...he plays a cop :D.
  10. i'm just ticked at him for being involved with this totally unnecessary remake of a great film. i mean what next, citizen kane?
  11. Against Will

    Against Will Supporting Member

    Dec 10, 2003
    Big Sound Central
    If typecasting yourself and playing derivative roles was a crime, Denzel Washington would be pretty low on the list of suspects to round up. I mean, as least he does a good job at it.

    Has Jack Nicholson ever played a character that wasn't psychotic or otherwise demented?

    Has Will Smith ever played a character that wasn't a wise cracking smart ass?

    I don't think anyone's had the heart to tell Keanu Reeves he's not in "Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure" anymore.

    Don't get me started on the Wayans.
  12. Squidfinger

    Squidfinger I wish I could sing like Rick Danko.

    Jan 7, 2004
    Shreveport LA
    I hear ya Mike Money. Denzel has had his monents but I still think he's way overhyped (Fallen, Bone Collector anyone?). I too am tired of the black guy taking on the evil rich white people storyline.
  13. Zirc


    May 13, 2001
    Los Angeles
    They're just actors afterall. As Mystic River taught us, good acting can only take a movie so far before it's held back by a mediocre story / director / etc.
  14. Mike Money

    Mike Money Banned

    Mar 18, 2003
    Bakersfield California
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    What is that movie where he is a District Attorney in LA and it has that dude from 3rd rock from the sun... and he gets framed for a lot of stuff, and they even drug him and make him do a porno? that one was sorta cool.
  15. Zirc


    May 13, 2001
    Los Angeles
    That's the one
  16. P. Aaron

    P. Aaron Supporting Member

    Well he did sing once, and played a sensitive cheatin' guy in that "Bridges" flick.

    But other than that, all he does is shoot stuff.
  17. + about 5 or 6
  18. bassturtle


    Apr 9, 2004
    This whole thread gets a big fat :scowl:
  19. malthumb


    Mar 25, 2001
    The Motor City
    Naww....Gotta disagree with you on this one. Denzel plays a lot of diverse roles and characters. Early on in his movie career, his journey was to take on roles that could be played by someone irregardless of race. Remember, he started out as a doctor on "St. Elsewhere". Movies like "Crimson Tide", "Philadelphia", "Pelican Brief", and "Fallen" did not require a black actor in the role. Same is probably true of "Training Day", but I haven't seen that one yet, so I can't speak with authority on that one.

    Films like "Mo' Better Blues", "Devil In A Blue Dress", "Preacher's Wife" and "He Got Game" required black actors, but the point of those films was not "the rich white man done done me wrong". They were commentaries on various aspects of the black experience, but race conflict was not a central theme. As a counter example, one of my favorite movies, "Fargo", could not have been done with a predominantly black cast, but the characters' "whiteness" was not a theme.

    There are times when Denzel is in films that play on racial conflict. I have a theory on that. Denzel is a very good actor. Denzel has a certain level of universal appeal. Denzel is considered "safe" by the Hollywood inside crowd. Denzel is an excellent box office draw. So, if you are doing a movie that is likely to touch some hot buttons, do you use some guy who's an unproven talent or a political hot-head, or has some other sort of baggage? Or do you use a guy that can put butts in seats and deliver a message without offending half your audience?



    btw - "The Manchurian Candidate" is about to open soon. If it is at all true to the original book and movie, it's another one of those where a white actor could have just as easily been selected to play the part, as was the case in the original.
  20. lbanks


    Jul 17, 2003
    Ennui, IN USA
    This thread is...