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Designers And Makers Of Amps/Preamps: Center Detents, Please!

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by The Diaper Geni, Jun 12, 2018.


  1. The Diaper Geni

    The Diaper Geni Submissive. And loving it. Supporting Member

    Nov 22, 2005
    Central Ohio
    @Jeff Genzler, @agedhorse, and any other amp makers......Can you puh-LEEEEZ make your amps and preamps with EQ center detents?

    I currently have a MG800 and just got a Mesa Rosetta preamp. I've had a Mesa 800 and a +. All terrific products. But no center detents on the EQ section of your amps/preamps? Is there a reason you guys don't do that?

    Drives me nuts. IMO it's much easier to dial in a tone quickly on a gig with detents.
     
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  2. squarewave

    squarewave Supporting Member

    Jun 16, 2004
    Iowa City, Iowa USA
    I like them too, for what that's worth.
     
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  3. Stumbo

    Stumbo Wherever you go, there you are. Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 11, 2008
    Intergalactic Mind Space
    Song Surgeon sofware
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  4. agedhorse

    agedhorse Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 12, 2006
    Davis, CA (USA)
    Development Engineer-Mesa, Product Support-Genz Benz
    Lots of folks don't care for setents either. That's been my take on this.
     
  5. 40Hz

    40Hz Supporting Member

    Guess you gotta displease somebody no matter what you do, right? :laugh:

    (FWIW I prefer having a center detent on a boost/cut.)
     
  6. BadExample

    BadExample

    Jan 21, 2016
    Injiana
    Do 'em up like the Shen Pro. That'll push him over the edge trying to find center by feel :laugh:
     
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  7. agedhorse

    agedhorse Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 12, 2006
    Davis, CA (USA)
    Development Engineer-Mesa, Product Support-Genz Benz
    Yup, that's about right!
     
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  8. The Diaper Geni

    The Diaper Geni Submissive. And loving it. Supporting Member

    Nov 22, 2005
    Central Ohio
    Whoops! Corrected.
     
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  9. Jeff Genzler

    Jeff Genzler Commercial User

    Feb 9, 2007
    Brooklyn NY
    Currently GENZLER AMPLIFICATION / Formerly GENZ BENZ
    Sorry to disappoint. I can see it might be a nice choice on a couple of eq controls but not on level or gain controls or sweepable mid freq control. This would be a manufacturing nightmare. We've even gone away from full detented pots like the old days.
     
  10. basscooker

    basscooker Commercial User

    Apr 11, 2010
    cincy ky
    Owner, Chopshopamps.com
    I like them too. What I'm thinking would be a cool feature is if eq controls were set with a detent where the control is FLAT, not simply center. That way, no matter knob position in relation to "noon +/- " , you know where the eq is basically inactive.... Probably way more complicated to achieve than it sounds, but it would be pretty sweet to know that you could set the eq "truly" flat in seconds; not like " oh, wait! Was that 2:00, 12:30, 9:15 or was it 9:15, 2:00, 12:30?"
     
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  11. 4 Strings Good

    4 Strings Good

    Mar 6, 2014
    Aged Horse, please displease the people who don't like center detentes. Also please displease the folks that don't like recessed cab handles.
     
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  12. agedhorse

    agedhorse Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 12, 2006
    Davis, CA (USA)
    Development Engineer-Mesa, Product Support-Genz Benz
    Now that would be a real nightmare... 12:00 is semi-standard, anything else would be very custom and might require tooling depending on the style pot.
     
  13. agedhorse

    agedhorse Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 12, 2006
    Davis, CA (USA)
    Development Engineer-Mesa, Product Support-Genz Benz
    Who isn't using recessed handles?
     
  14. 4 Strings Good

    4 Strings Good

    Mar 6, 2014
    subway_format_1x15_right_highres.
     
  15. agedhorse

    agedhorse Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 12, 2006
    Davis, CA (USA)
    Development Engineer-Mesa, Product Support-Genz Benz
    The handle is in fact rabbited (recessed) into the cabinet and if you place a straightedge corner to corner you will see about 1/8" of open space. Try setting it on its side, the handle clears easily.

    This handle is available surface mount (we don't use that version) which will not clear by a mile.
     
  16. 4 Strings Good

    4 Strings Good

    Mar 6, 2014
    Yes, it is, but it's the flip-up grip part I don't like. Didn't mean to suggest the handles were bolted to the outside of the cabinet. But I like this design better:

    4x10_powerhouse_angle.
     
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  17. micguy

    micguy

    May 17, 2011
    If a Fender amp had fetents at “flat”, thry’d be far from “noon”. ALot of amps at noon are very far from flat.

    I often use settings close to noon, but not quite. A detent makes it difficult to set a knob close to noon. I’m definitely not a fan of detents in most cases.
     
  18. No dents for me.
     
  19. JGR

    JGR The "G" is for Gustav Supporting Member Commercial User

    Jun 29, 2006
    Maryland
    President, CEO, CFO, CIO, Chief Engineer, Technician, Janitor - Reiner Amplification
    I went to center detents on the EQ controls a while back (center is flat). It’s kind of nice to have though it doesn’t bother me if an amp doesn’t.
     
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  20. Nev375

    Nev375

    Nov 2, 2010
    Missouri
    All I ask for is to be able to easily see which way the knob is pointing on a dim stage. Black knobs on a black faceplate is not a great idea.
     
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