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Dichotomia: Are you a P or a J

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Raman, Feb 10, 2019.


  1. P

    279 vote(s)
    61.5%
  2. J

    175 vote(s)
    38.5%
  1. Raman

    Raman Supporting Member

    Feb 19, 2003
    Montreal, Qc
    Let's be Manichean. Let's split the World in 2.
    Like saying that all rock lovers are either Beatles or Rolling Stones.

    Let's say that primordially, there exist 2 basses. Only 2 opposing fundamental forces in the universe of bass when you try to relate your own bass experience to yourself and to others.

    There is: P or J.

    Ironically, J is the one that best insures your sound precision. It punches through the mix more easily. Whereas P gives you bottom however you play: probably what attracted you to bass in the first place. And so it's a tradeoff. Yet the J can sometimes sound twangy where the P can get muddied. Again, it's the tradeoff.

    In that paradigm, My G&L L2500 is definitely a J. So were my previous Ibanez Ergodyne and my MF custom bass. Oppositely, my Ibanez Axstar is definitely a P. I think that I'm more generally a J.
     
    Last edited: Feb 10, 2019
  2. nostatic

    nostatic Supporting Member

    Jun 18, 2004
    lost angeles, CA
    Endorsing Artist: FEA Labs
    PJ actually, but P ftw. Don't like JJ basses, and I've tried...

    I've found the complete opposite - P sits way better in a mix, has nice mids. JJ in my hands, not so much. Neck pu lacks balls, bridge pickup needs some beef.

    Totally YMMV, depends on technique, style of music, etc.
     
  3. Based on your description I'm a P. But I use a J neck. :D

    Also, I'm a Beatle
     
  4. Raman

    Raman Supporting Member

    Feb 19, 2003
    Montreal, Qc
    You see, I'm a J and a Rolling Stone.
    Doesn't mean we can't respect each other. :cool:
     
  5. PSPookie

    PSPookie Supporting Member

    Aug 13, 2006
    Ocoee, TN
    Yes, at heart I am definitely a P or a J depending on the day.
     
  6. Raman

    Raman Supporting Member

    Feb 19, 2003
    Montreal, Qc
    I changed my original description. :)

    «Ironically, J is the one that best insures your sound precision. It punches through the mix more easily. Whereas P gives you bottom however you play: probably what attracted you to bass in the first place. And so it's a tradeoff. Yet the J can sometimes sound twangy where the P can get muddied. Again, it's the tradeoff.»
     
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  7. jd56hawk

    jd56hawk

    Sep 12, 2011
    The Garden State
    So, we can choose basses that aren't Ps or Js?
     
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  8. lowdownthump

    lowdownthump

    Jul 17, 2004
    Hmmm. I guess im from another world all together.
    I’m either a Stingray5 or an active J5. No Stones or Beatles for me. Brothers Johnson or Fred Hammond for me.
     
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  9. two fingers

    two fingers Opinionated blowhard. But not mad about it. Gold Supporting Member

    Feb 7, 2005
    Eastern NC USA
    Fun experiment.

    However, I disagree with this paragraph.

    I have owned plenty of both. I used to work in a store. I have played HUNDREDS of both. I find a J to be scooped unless you dime the bridge pickup and all-but turn the neck pickup off. And then you get some serious mid-range burp.

    I can slice and dice through any mix with a P bass. Dime the tone knob. Period. A pick will get you through even easier.

    I have found it harder to punch through with a Jazz.

    You peg the tone knob on your P bass and you'll likely have to tame it with your amp EQ a little. That's the edge I live on with a P bass and love it. I use my technique to round it out. I rarely dial back the tone at all.

    You give me one of each with the same round wound strings and I'll cut through better with the P bass every time. That's just my experience with both.
     
  10. Raman

    Raman Supporting Member

    Feb 19, 2003
    Montreal, Qc
    You can describe any bass as being closer to a P or a J.
     
  11. Flaked Beans

    Flaked Beans

    Sep 9, 2005
    NYC
    P? J? lol.

    IMG_20170917_185255.
     
  12. jd56hawk

    jd56hawk

    Sep 12, 2011
    The Garden State
    Super P plus.
    20190119-130029.
     
  13. Raman

    Raman Supporting Member

    Feb 19, 2003
    Montreal, Qc
    I'd say J.

    :roflmao:
     
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  14. Warpeg

    Warpeg Supporting Member

    Jun 20, 2005
    Ohio
    I own both and happily play both; I am both and neither. Also, dealing in absolutes is lazy. :cool:
     
  15. I take a P, smoke a J, then put on my PJs.
     
  16. Resonance129

    Resonance129

    Feb 15, 2011
    Georgia
    Tough decision to make.
    Really lol.

    I guess I can't say "both", so if I HAD to choose one, I'd say I'm a J. But ONLY for the sake of versatility. There's a wider range of sounds to pull from a J/J than a P (IME), so that's the route I'd go. I feel like I could make either of them cut well in a mix after a little amp EQ'ing (I've come to find they require some very different EQ'ing, too..). Otherwise, I seriously have trouble imagining my small collection without one of each. And I JUST got my first Fender J a few weeks ago. It's become one of my absolute favs to play.

    Guess I'm a J.
     
  17. I'm E Rik but that's not an option :(
     
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  18. Flaked Beans

    Flaked Beans

    Sep 9, 2005
    NYC
    On the other hand my '78/'08 jazz basses are excellent. as well as my ebmm stringray bass indeed. here they are.

    IMG_20180312_185509.
    IMG_20170422_193816.
     
  19. Flaked Beans

    Flaked Beans

    Sep 9, 2005
    NYC
    carrots
     
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  20. Stranger Danger

    Stranger Danger Feel Like A Stranger Supporting Member

    Jan 3, 2010
    Texas
    I'm a Ray
     

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