Did I just buy a fake fender?

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by chechunka, Dec 31, 2014.

  1. chechunka

    chechunka Supporting Member

    Apr 18, 2009
    Hi TB,

    I just purchased a lovely Mij fender 62 reissue pbass in Fiesta red on ebay. I have owned almost a dozen Japanese fenders over the years and although this one is indeed a nice playing bass the stamps on the neck and neck pocket look way different from any I've seen before. There was no hand written date. I'm afraid it could be a partbass that someone thru decals on or a classic vibe that someone dressed up. Another issue of note is that it doesn't have the strap button on the back of the head stock like all my previous 62's have.

    I hope I'm wrong but wanted to ask while I still have time to return to the seller.

    Thanks


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  2. devinp17

    devinp17

    Jun 26, 2014
    Ontario, Canada
    I've said this many times before, and I'll say it again. No one is gonna fake a MIJ or MIM Fender (especially when it's a reissue, and not an original). The only time you should be worried is when you buy a used MIA Fender, or if you happen to be dealing with the most stupid person on the planet. It should be fine. If you don't mind me asking, how much did you pay for it?
     
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  3. hdracer

    hdracer

    Feb 15, 2009
    Elk River, MN.
    The neck looks right.
    There is a difference between the CIJ's and MIJ's.
     
  4. bholder

    bholder Affable Sociopath Gold Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Sep 2, 2001
    Vestal, NY
    Received a gift from Sire* (see sig)
    I can't imagine anyone investing enough to make a convincing fake of what at the time was itself considered a "fake Fender" by many. That is, sometimes the best fake Fenders are Fender's own fake Fenders. The question I have is always the same - does it sound and feel like it should for what you paid for it? If someone were to go through the effort of faking a MIJ '62 reissue, and got close enough that it plays and sounds convincingly well, then you got what you paid for in terms of quality / $ anyway.
     
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  5. chechunka

    chechunka Supporting Member

    Apr 18, 2009
    Thanks for the kind help. I paid 850 which is a bit high but it's an mij 94-95 which was a solid era. It's a rare color, mint conditon, has a fralin, hipshot reverse tuners and new shielding and cts pots. It honestly plays better than the last us avri 62 I owned.

    My 93-94 mij is ridiculous. Plays better than anything else I've ever touched. Lakland, vintage fender, etc.
     
  6. nerkoids

    nerkoids

    Jan 3, 2014
    Montreal
    Just for clarification:

    MIJ signifies that all components were made in Japan?

    and CIJ signifies basically that it was assembled in Japan with parts sourced from other countries?

    Or does either one signify which Japanese guitar manufacturer built whichever?
     
  7. devinp17

    devinp17

    Jun 26, 2014
    Ontario, Canada
  8. chechunka

    chechunka Supporting Member

    Apr 18, 2009
    My understanding is that they are the same machines, simply made during a different era of fender japan.
     
  9. P. Aaron

    P. Aaron Supporting Member

    Yeah. That lighting on the pic of the truss rod threw me but the rest of the markings & text styles of the stamps & decals & finish work seems too usual to be faked.
     
  10. chechunka

    chechunka Supporting Member

    Apr 18, 2009
    @devin_bass it could be... or a 2007-2010. They all state T plus six digits... crap.
     
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  11. devinp17

    devinp17

    Jun 26, 2014
    Ontario, Canada
    Considering the SN begins with T09, I would think it's a 2009. I could be wrong though.
     
  12. bholder

    bholder Affable Sociopath Gold Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Sep 2, 2001
    Vestal, NY
    Received a gift from Sire* (see sig)
    Hmm, now, on the other hand, if the seller passed off a newer reissue as an older, more valuable reissue, and charged a premium based on that, then yeah, I would say OP has a valid misrepresentation complaint. But again, if it plays and sounds like it's worth it, it's worth it, always my position.
     
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  13. chechunka

    chechunka Supporting Member

    Apr 18, 2009
    @devinp17 you are right.

    @bholder you're right.

    You're right.

    I'll check but I don't think he stated the year. He simply gave me the serial and I ran it through guitar serial dater. .
     
  14. gfen

    gfen

    Aug 21, 2014
    lehigh valley
    stayed at a holiday inn, once...
    If I recall my reading, CIJ vs MIJ is simply a naming method, it's all marketing. They changed sometime in the '90s.

    You could easily say your MIM Fenders were "Crafted in Aztlan" if you wanted too and be as valid.
     
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  15. Well if you want to get technical, any Fender made after 1965 is a "fake" Fender.
     
  16. chechunka

    chechunka Supporting Member

    Apr 18, 2009
  17. hdracer

    hdracer

    Feb 15, 2009
    Elk River, MN.
    CIJ and MIJ differentiates the factory it was made at Fujigen and Tokai. There are 1990's and 2000's CIJ & MIJ basses
    I had a 2006 CIJ
     
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  18. gfen

    gfen

    Aug 21, 2014
    lehigh valley
    stayed at a holiday inn, once...
    http://www2.fender.com/support/articles/japanese-instruments-product-dating/

    It appears you are correct, but at the same time not enough that I'm admitting I was giving bad info. :)
     
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  19. hdracer

    hdracer

    Feb 15, 2009
    Elk River, MN.
  20. bholder

    bholder Affable Sociopath Gold Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Sep 2, 2001
    Vestal, NY
    Received a gift from Sire* (see sig)
    See, I knew someone was going to chime in with that! :)
     
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