Did you actually even BUY the thing?

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous [BG]' started by superheavyfunk, Jul 16, 2013.

  1. superheavyfunk

    superheavyfunk

    Mar 11, 2013
    Toronto
    Every time I read a negative review on here about a piece of gear, I find myself wondering how many of the ppl writing stuff actually shelled out for the item and how many are just parroting the nonsense they themselves read online.

    As a case in point, that old pf500 thread is a hilarious read - in fact, every time that amp is brought up, there are some folk who jump right in with the same old lines, that quite frankly, look like they've been copy/pasted from other ppls reviews. I went ahead and bought one myself and have been pleased with the device ever since.

    Anyway, I came across this article which I found very interesting. There's been some research done on this phenomena, wherein ppl write negative reviews on products they've never actually owned... I guess the moral of the story is that we should never take any review for gospel. At most, we should probably just read them for entertainment sake and just buy the thing if we're thinking that hard about it in the first place.

    http://mobile.nytimes.com/blogs/bits/2013/07/15/why-web-reviewers-make-up-bad-things/?smid=go-share&
     
  2. Plectrum72

    Plectrum72 Supporting Member

    Interesting article. I also get annoyed when I read a negative review that has nothing to do with the product. I see that a lot when looking at gear from online stores. The reviewer will give a 1 star review because the product showed up slightly damage and have to be returned. Then they'll rave about how great the customer support was and how easy it was to return the item and how great their replacement item is. Um, dude, you're writing a review of the product, not a review of UPS, FEDEX, or USPS.
     
  3. verycoolname

    verycoolname

    Jan 28, 2013
    Pittsburgh
    I think a lot of people do parrot what others have told them; it's just human nature. I know car analogies are cliche, but it's the same thing when people tell you a brand "sucks" because they "know someone who owned one that hated it." If you've never owned it I say don't give an in depth review of it; if you've played it once or twice you're allowed a few quick quips (as long as you say your experience was limited).

    Not completely on topic, but in the same realm is this review (one of the least helpful reviews of all time, IMO). It was on a Fender Mustang CIJ reissue (which I'm interested in buying)...

    The bolded comments are about the actual bass in question (the Mustang)...the rest is a completely off-topic review of the CV Jazz. If you want to review a product then review a product...don't plug it with comments about separate products.
     
  4. superheavyfunk

    superheavyfunk

    Mar 11, 2013
    Toronto
    Lol. That "review" is hilarious. That kind of stuff is all over on online store websites. The best place for reviews seems to be amazon but you still have to sift thru all the worthless ones to find the three decent ones that are like 60% relevant or helpful.

    TalkBass can be good too but the same nonsense happens here all the time as well.
     
  5. elgecko

    elgecko

    Apr 30, 2007
    Anasleim, CA
    I once read a negative review of an assembly-required item where they complained that the box was "too hard to open". :confused:
     
  6. fhm555

    fhm555 So FOS my eyes are brown

    Feb 16, 2011
    Almost as annoying as a negative review from a non user is the individual asking for opinions on a recent purchase when they are not actually interested in opinions so much as they are looking for validation of their purchase.
     
  7. macrocheesium

    macrocheesium

    Sep 12, 2012
    I get much more annoyed with the positive reviews, partly because there are SO MANY of them. I can't count the number of times I've seen a 5 star review that said, "I played this bass in the store for 5 minutes and it was the best, hopefully one day I'll be able to afford it for myself".
     
  8. I just have to get really confused when I see a string of negative reviews about a product I or someone in my family owns and I/they use and likes. It's like... are we talking about the same thing here? :eyebrow:
     
  9. The reviews by new players who have never played anything else, but have to justify to themselves that they bought the best. So many of these reviews out there, only offset by the gear snobs who don't actually own one, and have never played one, but just know how sub-standard it is.

    At least on TB we can read posts by the reviewer and look at the gear they use to get an idea about who is doing the review.
     
  10. I don't need to have owned something to give it a good or bad review. I've pleyed plenty of instruments and haved tried gear that honestly i feel deserve a negative review. I will say that if you have not at least tried a piece of equipment you should keep your mouth shut LOL. I also dont like positive reviews of things just because someone needs to justify the garbage they bought.
     
  11. Munjibunga

    Munjibunga Retired Member

    May 6, 2000
    San Diego (when not at Groom Lake)
    Independent Contractor to Bass San Diego
    Conversely, people who do buy things typically will not write a negative review because doing so would imply they screwed up.
     
  12. SirMjac28

    SirMjac28 Patiently Waiting For The Next British Invasion

    Aug 25, 2010
    The Great Midwest
    I don't rely on reviews where people go to a store try out a piece of gear for five minutes and become instant experts then start nit picking and write a bad review.. "ahhh the action is too high" " these strings are terrible" " I wish they had more colors" I much prefer a person who has been with the instrument or piece of gear for a month or two and sits down to write a good review telling me the good and bad points. I really dislike the people who don't follow the instructions and then blame the product Amazon is a breeding ground for these folks.
     
  13. vbchaos

    vbchaos

    Sep 5, 2011
    Groningen, The Netherlands
    Uncompensated endorsing user: fEARful
    I like reading reviews - if you do it long enough you get an idea of what is fake and what is true. I always skip reviews that doesn't seem to be "real". It is a difference if someone wants to tell the world his oppinion about a product or if someone thinks "Ney, buy some other stuff instead".
    That said, I write reviews myself and I do not have to own things to review them. I can test-drive a car and tell you afterwards whether I like it or not and why that would be my opinion. I did not buy that car.
    I can tell alot about amps I tested in shops, but I cannot tell you how they behave in a gig situation because, honestly, I don't know!

    Bottomline: You can rely on reviews on the internet, but you need a well-adjusted ********-filter
     
  14. lowfreq33

    lowfreq33

    Jan 27, 2010
    Nashville
    Endorsing Artist: Genz Benz Amplification
    There are also the negative reviews in which the person clearly has no clue what they're doing. "I bought these 150 watt 12" speakers for an outdoor gig my band was doing for about 500 people. They weren't loud enough, and the speakers were blown by the end of the night".
     
  15. ga_edwards

    ga_edwards

    Sep 8, 2000
    UK, Essex
    It appears to me that people are more likely to write a review if they aren't happy with something. It seems rare that people write an honest review when they are happy.

    I agree with lowfreq33's comment too, and not just gear reviews. When I was booking a budget holiday earlier this year, tripadvisor was full of low scoring reviews because people were expecting 5 star luxury in a 2 or 3 star budget hotel.
     
  16. ga_edwards

    ga_edwards

    Sep 8, 2000
    UK, Essex
  17. Kmonk

    Kmonk

    Oct 18, 2012
    South Shore, Massachusetts
    Endorsing Artist: Fender, Spector, Ampeg, Curt Mangan, Nordstrand Pickups, Korg , Conquest Sound
    I only post reviews about products, services and businesses that I have experience with. I also do not believe much of what I read in reviews for the reasons mentioned in the article.
     
  18. mcarp555

    mcarp555 Guest

    Jul 14, 2013
    I only briefly read the original post, but I'd have to say based upon other threads I've read through on other forums, that some of the replies are spot on, while others are completely off base. I'd give this thread a higher recommendation, but I don't like my monitor.
     
  19. Zooberwerx

    Zooberwerx Gold Supporting Member

    Dec 21, 2002
    Virginia Beach, VA
    If you actually own the gear, it's difficult to provide a balanced review / opinion as the practice may bite you in the &*# when it comes time to sell in the TB classifieds.

    Just remember...no matter what I have listed, it's the best I've ever owned!

    Riis
     
  20. macrocheesium

    macrocheesium

    Sep 12, 2012
    So, which is it?