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Differences in Eden D-410XLT and XST

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by BigBohn, Nov 12, 2001.

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  1. Nov 12, 2001 #1
    BigBohn

    BigBohn

    Sep 29, 2001
    WPB, Florida
    I recently played the Eden D-410XLT at a local music shop and I loved it over the SWR Goliath III I had planned on getting. I just want to know if any of you other people have played the D-410XST and have any thoughts of comparison. I know that on paper, the XLT does 50 Hz low with 700W RMS and the XST does 36 Hz low with 1000W RMS. From online reviews, the XST seems to be more of a hi-fi sounding cab with 2db less SPL than the XLT. The construction of the 2 cabs is slightly different too. The XLT having 1" (I believe them to be) acoustic routers on top and bottom of front of cab that might do something with sending bass deep into the audience, and the XSP doesn't. The XLT has 2 bottom ports, the XST has 1 bottom port.

    Comments would be nice, pretty please?;) :)
     
  2. Nov 12, 2001 #2
    joel the bass player

    joel the bass player Supporting Member

    Nov 27, 2000
    Omaha, NE
  3. Nov 13, 2001 #3
    leper

    leper

    Jun 21, 2001
    so its the xlt without that awful low mid boost...nice :)
     
  4. Nov 13, 2001 #4
    BigBohn

    BigBohn

    Sep 29, 2001
    WPB, Florida
    ok thanks for the link. ive seen that already, but anyways I was hoping for an actual response from my fellow TBers. Some hands on experience maybe. Thanks anyways.
     
  5. Nov 13, 2001 #5
    boogiebass

    boogiebass

    Aug 16, 2000
    Depends on your playing style. I love the D410XLT for classic rock/blues. Not sure I'd want one for tippy-tap modern style stuff, however. The XST is supposedly cleaner in terms of accurately reproducing what you feed it. That doesn't suit my style but may well be exactly what you want.
     
  6. Nov 13, 2001 #6
    Dirty Road Cola

    Dirty Road Cola Guest

    Sep 8, 2000
    Gainesville, FL
    The XST is a wee bit smaller than the XLT, too. Its only got 1 vent as opposed to two. Wider freq response, cleaner, etc etc. Great sounding cab, just not for my rockin' self. Need the mid-sledgehammer of the XLT ;)
     
  7. Nov 14, 2001 #7
    Gard

    Gard

    Mar 31, 2000
    Fuquay-Varina, NC, USA
    Both are great cabs (I'm envious, DRC....lucky bastid just got an XLT :p), but somewhat different.

    The XLT has a pronounced mid-grunt (as has been mentioned), while the XST has a flatter response. The XST also has a fuller but somehow less "boomy" low end.

    I'd say the XST is a good "all-around" cabinet, while the XLT is a good "rock" cabinet, but that's a generalization. The best scenario would be to A/B both of them, and see which tickled your fancy. It may be tough to find a shop where you could do that, but luckily for you Bigbohn (I refuse to do the caps crap), there's a shop a couple hours away that will afford you the choice. Hit the FL Turnpike north, head to Orlando....Bass Central awaits.... ;)
     
  8. Nov 14, 2001 #8
    BigBohn

    BigBohn

    Sep 29, 2001
    WPB, Florida
    cool, gard. thanks:)
     
  9. Nov 14, 2001 #9
    BigBohn

    BigBohn

    Sep 29, 2001
    WPB, Florida
    oh no, i just realized that the XLT might have a 1/4" plug instead of Speakons. Is that true? Does the XST have 1/4s too? Ah crap! Does the Speakon make a big difference or could I give a crap less? The amp won't be roughed up, it'd be only standing behind me, not being jossled around. I need help quick. :confused: :( :eek:


    also would installing Speakon connectors into the cab be expensive, or at all possible?
     
  10. Nov 14, 2001 #10
    Brad Johnson

    Brad Johnson Inactive

    Mar 8, 2000
    Gaithersburg, Md
    DR Strings
    This is only based on my limited experience but...

    1/4" jacks work.

    ;)
     
  11. Nov 14, 2001 #11
    leper

    leper

    Jun 21, 2001
    unless youre pushin big time wattage into it 1/4s should be fine
     
  12. Nov 14, 2001 #12
    BigBohn

    BigBohn

    Sep 29, 2001
    WPB, Florida
    is 700 watts big?
     
  13. Nov 14, 2001 #13
    leper

    leper

    Jun 21, 2001
    nope
     
  14. Nov 14, 2001 #14
    Muttluk

    Muttluk

    Jan 19, 2000
    Oakland, California
    Xlt has 1/4 and Banana jacks.
     
  15. Nov 14, 2001 #15
    Gard

    Gard

    Mar 31, 2000
    Fuquay-Varina, NC, USA
    As does the XST :)

    And Brad's right, 1/4" plugs will suffice quite well, although I recommend a "dummy plug" for the unused 1/4", because it sometimes "breathes" (air rushes in and out of the open hole, and you can hear it sometimes).
     
  16. Nov 14, 2001 #16
    BigBohn

    BigBohn

    Sep 29, 2001
    WPB, Florida
    hmmm, how interesting. i didn't know cabinets had lungs to begin with. hehe:)
     
  17. Nov 14, 2001 #17
    leper

    leper

    Jun 21, 2001
    i figured a good brand like eden would have built the jacks inside a small box inside the main cabinet to avoid the whistleing problem...odd
     
  18. Nov 15, 2001 #18
    BigBohn

    BigBohn

    Sep 29, 2001
    WPB, Florida
    is it realistic to get a Speakon hookup installed into the XLT? I don't know, but I would feel safer if it was with Speakons. Maybe I'm just paranoid.
     
  19. Nov 15, 2001 #19
    leper

    leper

    Jun 21, 2001
    you could probably do it yourself, but youll most likely void your warranty.
     
  20. Nov 15, 2001 #20
    Muttluk

    Muttluk

    Jan 19, 2000
    Oakland, California
    Will somone explain the advantage to "Speakons" cables? Why are they so special? I really dont understand why some people obsess over these cables (not just this post, but many others that i've seen). back in the day, they used 1/4" plugs, those worked fine. I use banana Jacks, those work fine, and supposidly better than 1/4" jacks. Speakons, dont they just have a "lock" on it, and thats the only gain? I'm not gonna make an opinion untill i figure out what exactly is so special about the speakon's. is it somthing noticable in sound like the difference betwen RCA jacks and an S-Video... or what? As far as i know all sound is analouge anyways...
     
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