Wow. Just, wow... There statement is such an offense to logic, I don't even know where to begin. Maybe an analogy? It used to be illegal in the US to teach black people to read. Some people did it anyway and were put in jail for it. So, I guess because some people were convicted of teaching black people to read, it wasn't a stupid law? Dude, did you even bother to think before you typed that?
Selling ammunition to some random guy you don't know and the right to basic literacy are not the same thing. For a guy in the US, say, one of his guns breaks down, gets too old, he doesn't want to fire it anymore because it's a collection piece now and he doesn't want it to wear out (lots of people have family heirlooms like that.) He's got some ammo. His good friend happens to have a firearm or two that can use this ammo and he enjoys going to the range, so the guy with the ammo sells it to his buddy for a decent price (not giving it away, ammo's expensive and he paid a good price for it in the first place) but a reasonable one nonetheless. This is a very reasonable and logical thing to do. A member of the armed forces (former or presently) selling ammo to someone he doesn't know -- which is bloody obvious, since the guy turned out to be an undercover cop -- against the law in a country where guns are strictly regulated and unavailable to the general public is an entirely different thing. Saying he should be able to do this based on the 2nd ammendment (which, by the way, doesn't apply in other countries) is really stupid. And soulgeezer, as much as I like you lately, comparing it to not letting black people read is even more stupid and frankly "playing the race card" IMO. The two subjects are completely unrelated.
In an earlier post I said that the soldier broke the law and should be punished. I never said the 2nd Amendment applies in other countries. I merely said, in my opinion, the law that he broke was a stupid law. I grew up in country where the 2nd Amendment does apply. Because of this, I believe that gun ownership is a right. Therefore, when I hear of countries in which gun ownership is illegal, I tend to think such laws are stupid. Saying that a law isn't stupid merely because it is being enforced (the argument of the person to whom I was replying) is just plain wrong. That was the only point I was making. No playing of the "race card" -- Just finding another example of a stupid law that was enforced for a very long time (and trying to avoid references to Naziism). I hope this clears things up a bit...
But if guns are banned, then who cares how much ammo is available? I mean, bans made all those evil weapons go away right? What good is free gas when you don't have a car? I just got back from the range. Man, 600 rounds of ammo weighs A LOT. Thank goodness I didn't have to carry but 50 of them back to the car.
What I meant by that is that if you call the cops they are there within a decent time. A few guys on here have said that they arm because the cops don't show up for a long time. eg, pizza delivery is faster. From what I've read there cops reponse with guns is very fast to an incident.
How can you argue that the banning of guns is a stupid law? It is designed to make guns a lot easier to get hold of, and yes, you can get hold of guns illegally, but it is a lot more difficult, and if you are caught with a gun, you get punished for it. The argument that many Americans use is that they have guns for 'home defence'. However, if you look at the statistics, in America, many more people are killed by guns, and instances of robbery etc are not lower. If you didn't all have guns, then all that would happen is that less people would be killed by guns. How can you say that not having guns is stupid?
Noj - I totally agree with everything you say BUT: You're fighting a losing battle. Just give up. It's easier that way.
I think the point being missed here by heaps of people on this thread is that this topic depends on where you live and what the LOCAL laws are. The meaning of "context" may be of some use in this topic. Everyone should only play Stingrays cause it works best for me.
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