Ok, so I went thru the threads, in the Pups Comparison Stickies, and watched some videos with audio samples. And I've narrowed down my choice to DiMarzio UJ's or Model J's, for my 96 Fender Am Jazz Deluxe. I initially was looking for a Vintage Classic Jazz Tone, and I have gone back and forth ,but I am convinced now, that I want a more modern Jazz tone with nice punch & low end, that also produces a lot of wetness up on top with the treble, and isn't to dry and muffled. So which one of these 2 I listed ,are closer to producing this tone? In your opinion.
Having owned both I can tell you that the Model Js have more mids and the Ultra Js have less mids and more highs. Bass and output is about the same but the Model Js seem a little louder despite Dimarzio's tone chart. I personally like the Model Js better but if you want to slap than go with the Ultras.
Thanks for the info Spirit, I did find the charts a little confusing,cool though, they show the model J's with the treble with the least value , then the mid in second place and the Bass wayyyy the heck up there in value. having not ever owning any myself, I can't really disagree with the charts on there website, so I really value the experienced opinions on Tb. I realize there are a plethora of variables , strings, amp, etc.
Uh, "wetness"? In my lexicon, this refers to an effected signal. As opposed to non-effected... Of these two choices, you definitely want the Ultra Jazz. Its tone has "modern" written all over it. The highs have some nice sparkle too...not at all subdued as with the Model Js... MM
10/4 Got you, makes sense on your description of the high end, I always have a hard time getting my point across in describing tones. But it makes sense that the UJ would win in this category, it seems like it would have more clarity as well. The low end , while I'm sure is not like the Model J , does I still offer a lot of punch?
The Ultra Js have pretty good punch, hell they are Dimarzio, can't go wrong with em. They have a brighter attack but more scooped, less mid range growl. Some people say that the Ultra Js lack of mids will prevent them from cutting through in the mix but I haven't had that experience. I've recorded two albums with a bass that had those pickups and the results were great.
Don't be too sure. The lows are actually pretty comparable, in my experience. Let's just say you will not be disappointed in the lows of the Ultra Jazz. IME, the thing about the Ultra Jazz being scooped is exaggerated. Yes, they are both deep and bright - and for that reason many players will assume that they must not have sufficient midrange presence. Such is not the case. Simply dial back those lows and/or highs a bit as needed, and you'll find all the midrange content you need. It's all relative. The thing I love about them is that they sound very refined and hi-fi. If that's your kind of thing as well, then you'll probably love 'em too. But if you have any kind of traditional, lo-fi "grunt" in mind, I warn you: Don't go there. I *heart* my Ultra Jazz pickups... MM
Yeah, I meant scooped compared to the Model Js which have more emphasis on the mids. Not scooped like SD quarter pounds. They are definitely a more high fi pickup. Probably the best passive Jazz pickups you can get. I have one in the bridge of my Pbass paired with the Will Power. I ended up giving that Jazz bass with the Ultras to my little brother and since he hardly plays it, I might take it back.
How do you like the pairing? I was just considering that same combination, a Will Power P with a Ultra J at the bridge.
It's a great match. The only downside is the will power is a lot louder than the ultra j. If you were to solo the bridge pup in the middle of a song there would be a big volume drop'
I thought that may be the case. I was thinking of running them passive with a Vol/Blend/Tone config. But it may be better to run them with 2 Vols. Should be easier to balance them that way. How do you have yours set up?