I just purchased the "20 Years of Dischord" box set, and I have to say I'm amazed. As a person who's always liked supporting bassists over prog/fusion wankers, I'm amazed at the lines some of these Hardcore Players exhibit. A few I feel stand out are: Joe Lally (Fugazi)-just listen to "Waiting Room" Fred Erskine (Hoover/Crownhate Ruin)- I can't say enough about this guy, he writes slinky, ominous lines that run right through the middle of the music, the guitars in both bands are more of a wash than a leading instrument. The Later stuff with Hoover is especially impressive as they incorperate longer songs with odd and changing time signatures. And he sings lead whilst he does it. Dug E. Bird (Beefeater/Fidelity Jones)-If the Chilie Peppers had a child with Minor Threat these bands (who have the same vocalist as well) would be the children. Dug can slap and pop with the best of them, but doesn't when it isn't neccesary, Putting him a notch above monseur Flea in my opinion. Dave Allen (Branch Manager, not gang of four)-THIS Dave can play pretty good too. nice walking lines that run independent of the guitars. I'm not saying they're all gems, there are a good number of "dum dum dum dum" lines, but there are some diamonds in the roughs.