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Ditch the Nemesis/Eden rig for Trace Elliot?

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by steamthief, Jul 6, 2008.

  1. Jul 6, 2008 #1
    steamthief

    steamthief

    Jan 25, 2006
    Mentone Beach
    In assessing my current needs, I've concluded I really don't need 650 watts/2 ohms of power. My NA-650 and D210XST aren't seeing any use, and I'm not really digging the tone of my Ampeg B-50R I'm using for practice.

    Enter the GC 4th of July blowout sale, where a Trace Elliot 715x combo is marked down to $399. I played through it yesterday and I really liked the tone, and realize I like 15" drivers the best.

    If I choose to, I could also get a matching 15" cab for $249, or a 2x10 for $299. I don't need either, but the option is there.

    Should I get the combo and sell all the other stuff above, or am I crazy to even consider it?
     
  2. Jul 6, 2008 #2
    Snarf

    Snarf

    Jan 23, 2005
    Tri-state
    Do it if you want. But, IMO and IME, Nemesis gear sounds loads better than Trace. Trace just sounds artificial.
     
  3. Jul 6, 2008 #3
    fenderhutz

    fenderhutz

    Jan 28, 2007
    Harpers Ferry WV
    I disagree with that statement, Trace can sound just about any way you want it too if you have the SMX type heads with tube pre and dual compressors.

    Very versatile, powerful amps. Nemesis to me actually sounds VERY similar to the Trace.

    Peavey rehired some of the Trace Engineers when they purchased the rights so the new stuff sounds good too. I got that info directly from Peavey.
     
  4. Jul 6, 2008 #4
    chicago_mike

    chicago_mike

    Oct 9, 2007
    Chicago - LA - Rome - Dallas
    Endorsing Artist : Genz Benz
    I never thought I would need more than a 250 watt head, but now my main amp is 800watts mono and I have that thing on 7 to 8 on most my gigs. You never think you need it until you need more.

    its not as important, but think about resale value. Trace resale value in the us is horrid. Maybe invest in a 115 for the nemesis?
     
  5. Jul 6, 2008 #5
    steamthief

    steamthief

    Jan 25, 2006
    Mentone Beach
    Thanks for the input, guys!

    I'm not that familiar with TE gear, but this 15" combo I played a 62 RI P through yesterday sounded killer, to my ears. Fat, articulate and punchy.

    I found the eq and toneshape knob on this Peavey-TE combo to really provide a wide pallette of tones. Fenderhutz, can you elaborate on the similarities between the Trace and Nemesis?

    Good points all, Mike. It's unlikely I'll be needing the power I have, as I'm currently not in a band. When I was, we only played small dives for like 20-40 people.

    Regarding resale, I'd be picking up this combo for pretty darn cheap - retails for over $1k, sale price of $399.

    Your point regarding the 115 is one I've been mulling over for a few weeks. I've yet to plug the NA650 into a 15, but it's definitely a consideration.

    Anybody else want to chime in? :hyper:
     
  6. Jul 6, 2008 #6
    fenderhutz

    fenderhutz

    Jan 28, 2007
    Harpers Ferry WV
    Trace can do hi-fi like the Nemesis and can get punchy, where the Trace is better is that it can get a tiny bit dirty as well if you need it.

    After owning both at one point, The Trace can do everything the Nemesis can, but not vice versa.

    The Trace has better EQ control as well, but the downside, no 2ohm support.