Do you also play DB?

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous [BG]' started by foolforthecity, Dec 15, 2015.


  1. Yes - finger style (pluck/slap)

  2. Yes - bow

  3. Yes - both finger style & bow

  4. No - never had the desire

  5. No - but have thought about it

  6. No - would rather eat carrots with peas

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  1. Oldschool94

    Oldschool94

    Jan 9, 2015
    This poll needs an option for not anymore...

    Frankly, an EUB would probably not do the trick to me. It is too different from an actual upright. I understand the desire to save money, but it's an expensive instrument. You'd probably have to spend $3000 to get into okay-I-can-play-this range. Part of why I don't play anymore. EUBs are cool, and definitely real instruments, but they also do not really feel very much like playing an acoustic upright, or sound that close. You'd probably honestly get closer to the experience with an ABG.

    Also, while upright can help you as a musician and get you more gigs, it's definitely not required, if that's what you are thinking.
     
  2. JimmyM

    JimmyM

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Yamaha, Ampeg, Line 6, EMG
    Even though I 100% agree with this, I taught myself anyway. Granted, I can't play with a bow, but not like I have symphonic aspirations. Always wanted to take lessons, just never did.
     
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  3. Yeah I mean to legitimately be able to play the whole instrument. I know self taught guys who can get by playing rock and blues on upright and even a few who aren't bad at jazz. I don't know anyone who is really good or can use the bow that didn't take lessons though.
     
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  4. Jay2U

    Jay2U Not as bad as he lóòks

    Dec 7, 2010
    23 ft below sea level
    I did try DB on several occasions. FUN! I sometimes play my electric bass in upright position, sort of, just because. :smug:
     
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  5. I think I'd like to learn DB, but doubt I will find budget in terms of money or time for a while. And then there's the issue that, of the orchestral stringed instruments, I think the cello sounds most appealing...
     
  6. DrayMiles

    DrayMiles

    Feb 24, 2007
    East Coast
    Personally, I believe to feel/hear the true power and beauty of the upright, it needs to be a REAL one. Not the electric kind... You can get a good laminated one for $1000.00 roughly.

    AND... :)

    You need to use the bow to really get your intonation together...

    Cheers,

    D.
     
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  7. GKon

    GKon Supporting Member, Boom-Chicka-Boom

    Feb 17, 2013
    Albuquerque, NM
    I'm sorry to say that the attitude I mentioned is typically from fellow TB'ers. :(

    Others who have heard and seen mine tend to say positive things. :)
     
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  8. JimmyM

    JimmyM

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Yamaha, Ampeg, Line 6, EMG
    $300 Spiros? Using a 5-string? $230 online for a 4-string set.

    RE: the stick attitude, I'm always happy to listen to any good musician playing anything. But there are situations that an EUB just doesn't fit the part. My oldies band is one. My sub gig with an old-timey jazz band is another. And those of us who lug them around really resent you guys for being able to waltz in with an EUB in a gig bag :D
     
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  9. GKon

    GKon Supporting Member, Boom-Chicka-Boom

    Feb 17, 2013
    Albuquerque, NM
    I don't expect an EUB to be appropriate for all situations the same way an UB or a fretless EB may not be appropriate as well.
    I just don't see why they get flak.
     
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  10. fdeck

    fdeck Supporting Member Commercial User

    Mar 20, 2004
    Madison WI
    HPF Technology LLC
    If I ever get annoyed about lugging my bass, I just have to walk past the reed section in my band. Bari player also brings a clarinet and flute, sometimes bass clarinet and piccolo as well. Bass trombonist also brings a tuba.
     
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  11. Gaolee

    Gaolee Official leathers tester and crash dummy

    Same here, except that I do play with a bow. I do the whole rockabilly slap thing now, too. It's a slippery slope. The next thing is to learn to stand on the bass while slapping and howling at the moon in a tux during Beethoven's Eroica. We don't need no steeeking lessons for that!

    It was a natural progression for me anyway. I like having the neck near vertical when playing BG, so the upright was just a different scale length and a bit different angle.
     
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  12. bass4me2

    bass4me2

    May 31, 2009
    My first bass was a Stagg EUB. It was OK for a starter, but then I bought an acoustic upright, and eventually branched out to several BG's that I rotated through. I eventually traded the Stagg for a NS NXT 4. I still play all three types of basses. Each has it's own voice and it's own area of excellence, although the choice of what to play is largely just my preference. If I had to do with just one instrument a bass guitar would serve my needs and I love to play my Rob Allen. However, if I go for a period of time without my upright and then start bringing it to practice, everyone is always so complimentary. The acoustic upright has a visual presence as well as a sonic presence that just can't be replaced with a BG or EUB. People just like it and find it appealing. Additionally, for me at least, it's more satisfying than anything else I play. For someone who's looking to get started with an upright, I would say explore what is available to you in the way of acoustic basses, and by all means if possible have someone who is knowledgeable about the instrument help you. There are perfectly serviceable basses that can be had for the 1000-2,000 range. I've also played some upright basses that were so poorly set up that they were torture to play, and if that had been the first time I had tried to play one I might not have pursued it. Also consider whether you intend to play acoustic or amplified. It's easy to amplify a BG or EUB, but an acoustic bass requires more consideration. And while it's possible to be self taught, lessons with a good instructor will get you there quicker and help you avoid bad habits you don't even know you're developing. I've never regretted time and money spent on instruction.
     
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  13. Oneirogenic

    Oneirogenic

    Nov 10, 2009
    Yes, using a fiver!
     
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  14. Hahaha

    Hahaha

    Sep 26, 2003
    Olympia, WA USA
    I would like to get an EUB. I play a few gigs that require that I bring a lot of gear (PA, electric bass & amp, guitar & amp), which leaves no room for my upright in my truck. I also work with a seven piece jazz group that rarely has room to fit an upright on the stage. Too many people taking up space.

    I think part of the appeal for band leaders and the audience is the appearance of an upright bass on the stage. EUBs have a cool look, but don't offer the same visual appeal. I work with one BL who has stated that he likes to have an upright in the band because he thinks it adds class to the act. The music could be played on electric, but he insists on a traditional upright bass. I played for a Johnny Cash tribute act a few years ago, and I doubt that I could have used an EUB without getting flak from the band leader. My brief slap solo got more applause than anything else we did, so it certainly added value and impact to the act.
     
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  15. GKon

    GKon Supporting Member, Boom-Chicka-Boom

    Feb 17, 2013
    Albuquerque, NM
    I certainly see the appeal and class an UB adds. Hell, that's the main reason I first started to like them!

    That's also the main reason I was drawn to the Harley Benton EUB. I find its body shape a lot more appealing, cool, sexy and classy than the stick style EUB's.
     
  16. I don't. Would love to get an EUB some day. Not sure if that'll happen. I have enough guitars and basses that I'm running out of room.
     
  17. Sad but true.

    Although I played Bass as well as tuba, I am most enamored with the Cello and Trombone. :(
     
  18. iiipopes

    iiipopes Supporting Member

    May 4, 2009
    Folks, every player who has posted to this thread has spent multiple thousands of dollars on the combination of choice of electric bass(es), amplifier(s), strings, tuners, stands, effects, upgrade electronics and other hardware, etc. I'm not buying the "I don't have the money" lines from anybody.

    On this page, you can get a quality bass ready to play, upgrade strings, a good gig bag, and maybe even a Fishman Full circle installed for about $2,000. And then you can contact fDeck to get a good preamp for just a smidgen more.

    Laminated Gollihur Music 'Estle Louis' Bass (3/4, 1/2 and 1/4 size) at Gollihur Music - Double Bass, Upright Bass, String Bass Specialists

    There are other stores out there that have similar deals: Upton, Lemur, String Emporium, Cincinatti Bass, Kansas City Bass, and other good regional bass luthiers too numerous to mention.

    And yes, I agree that transportation is a pain. But I disagree with the effect on the band. Yes, I also played big band on a standard electric for decades. That's how I started in middle school jazz band camp in the summer of 1975. In my last big band, everyone sounded compressed - insufficient dynamic color. They were in tune and in rhythm, but the style wasn't there. It all felt pushed. This was just before I purchased my DB. I realized it was me: the natural compression and sustain of my electric bass was not driving the band properly. And this was a band with jazz teachers, multi-decade players, and devotees to the art form - each person a good to great musician in his/her own right. So long story short, I purchased my DB, set it up myself, took it to rehearsal, and within the first couple of songs the swing was back in the band, without my saying anything but acknowledging I now had a double bass, playing exactly the same notes on the same charts. Yes, I am here to testify from personal experience and observation that having a double bass does indeed make a huge difference in properly supporting the traditional bands in which a DB is used and sets the style.
     
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  19. GKon

    GKon Supporting Member, Boom-Chicka-Boom

    Feb 17, 2013
    Albuquerque, NM
    I believe that some people, myself included, were pointing out that they weren't willing to spend $2000 on an instrument they weren't sure if they would enjoy playing, hence the desire to hopefully find something under a certain price. That was definitely a deciding factor on my buying the HB EUB, to see if I even enjoyed the feel and style of playing vertically.

    Now that I know I do, I'd be willing to spend $2000 or more to buy a decent UB.
     
  20. iiipopes

    iiipopes Supporting Member

    May 4, 2009
    That's why in my initial post I recommended finding a music store that caters to student orchestras to see if one could be rented to try out. Or, I was lucky enough to borrow a friend's double bass, as others have mentioned on the forum.
     
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