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Discussion in 'Miscellaneous [BG]' started by Stephen Soto, Feb 3, 2004.
do you guys care how your favorite bands tune (alternate tunings ex. drop D)?
weird question .
I voted CARROTS. I think you actually just gave me an idea. I'm gonna make up a part tommorow and call it "Prelude in CARROTS!!!!".
Really, who cares what tuning someone uses? If it sounds good, it sounds good.
Not really. If it works it works. When I see or hear korn though, I wonder why they don't just tune down another fourth and stick Fieldy on maracas.
I don't care how other bands tune.... if they're fine with it it's fine with me. However, I was in a band about a year ago who tuned down a full step to D-G-C-F and on about half the songs we would go to drop-C, which I absolutly hated. Eventually I had to switch to very heavy strings to get the tension I needed, and I hated that even more. But hey, whatever . Other people can do whatever the heck they want.
don't like cover bands that tune everything down a halfstep or whole step to accommodate the singer. I auditioned for a band like this: you'd tune up to learn the song (if it was standard tuning on the radio) and tune back down to play it. Royal pain. Get a better singer. If a particular song is in an alternate tuning, sure, i'll retune to play it. But I hate playing songs in a different key than the original, they sound wrong to me.
(note: i've heard professional bands do the wrong-key thing too... for example, you'll never hear Blue Oyster Cult do Reaper in the same key as the studio recording. WHY?)
I'm with Jammadave on this one. I don't mind about bands playing their own songs in low C# as long as it sounds good, but a cover band transposing every single song can be a monumental PITA.
I like standard tuning, Drop D, and maybe slight detuning , like mudvayne , but k0rn? no.
Well as most of the bands I see, have acoustic pianos, saxophones etc. - I don't think I'll be seeing many of them tuning a half step down!!
Although I saw the great Israeli sax player Gilad Atzmon, improvising a soprano sax solo where he was swapping microtonal phrases with a Palestinian singer!!
I've heard of some bands recording in one key and have them tuned down in the mixing process. I didn't even know that was possible.
I would also assume that some songs sound better in a different key live as apposed to on disc.
Edit: I wouldn't think that has much to do with tuning, whether it be standard or tuned down...
I think it's a valid question- I will admit that I looked at down-tuned bands with a certain amount of amusement and scorn about a year ago. Then I joined my current band, and found out that we have to play everything in drop-d tuning. It's something I'm going to get them out of, but I honestly didn't mind it as much as I would.
I think the genre will really dictate whether or not this is acceptable. My main band is indie rock- down tuning isn't a big deal. At my church gig, where I have to work through charts of "church standards" and country/folk music, down tuning would be kind of silly, as it would be with jazz, etc.
I don't care how a band tunes..
I suppose that it doesn't matter how a band tunes - but what would really annoy me is if there was an assumption that I, as the bassplayer was just following what a guitarist was doing and had to match my lines to that - I would definitely not consider being in any band like that!!
I have no problem transposing on the fly and have played tunes in many different keys - but I have never de-tuned my bass to do this - and as long as nobody expected me to detune, then I wouldn't care what they did, presuming they were good players!
I'm sick of all those nU-m3t4L bands who think that heavy = low. This is total BS. It's just that most of those bands can't play riffs with more than 3 notes, so they compensate their lack of talent by detuning their 7-string guitars.
Why would tuning matter?
Funny. Mudvayne often detunes more than Korn. Korn is usually in A (well, D, but they use those 7 strings) and Mudvayne is usually in C or C# I believe.
But A is lower than C and C#...
On a 6, yeah. On a 7 string, not all that much. A 7 string guitar (like they use) has an added B string. They drop this down one step for A. Hearing both side to side, (hearing, not nessicarily technically or scietifically), C sounds every bit as low, if not a bit woolier than an A.
Mudvayne drops down two steps for C, and in Ryan Martini's case, down to G on his 5 strings.
While the A is indeed lower, Korn doesn't make consistent use of it (I unfortunately know, due to a few friends insistance on loving the band...), while Mudvayne does use it's Cs quite a bit.
Shucks, I think Staind and Deftones tune lower than Korn anyway.
A lot of that is production, with the sub-bass detunings. I've regularly played with bands that tune to B on a regular E string, and it doesn't sound any different in them mix than a drop D.
No, I hate when they use 5,6 string basses.
Tune doesn't bother me I have a tuner
Yes and no. A little drop D or something like that is fine, but when you start tuning down 4 or 5 semitones then that isjust too much.
My band tunes to Drop C, for no reason, whatsoever. Oh wait, I know why, to turn my bass tone into muddy, loose sounding mess...
Well it's not THAT bad, but i'm trying to get them to go the Drop D route...