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Discussion in 'General Instruction [BG]' started by IamGroot, Dec 28, 2019.
Hopefully, not a divisive question
At one time I didn't....then I got my degree in Music....then I went back to my old ways, only I am much better because I know the theory
No one said both weren’t valid. Hell of a lot easier to learn covers and play with others (me....very little theory which I’m trying to change) than hanging in with the jazz crowd in a jam situation.
Regardless, as a musician you are always going to pick up bits and pieces along the way. So I would say yes insofar as you do need to distinguish between major and minor, diminished and augmented, etc. But I don't think you need full blown, in-depth music theory to be a very competent musician. YMMV . . .
You don't need it inasmuch you don't need a knowledge of anatomy to digest your sandwich.
But if your tummy hurts, it helps to know why.
Yes. For the laughs
Kind of a silly question. There's all kinds of music theory systems. Theory is just a report on what has happened and how you can go about making music that sounds like that. So... I you want to sound like Gregorian or Ambrosian chant (yea, there's a difference) you'd better study ancient music theory, but that's not going to give you much when you try to get through the changes on "Autumn Leaves". You could study Hanson analysis, but that's mostly vertical. Schenker might be some help, but not so much with pop music. Twelve tone music with Schoenberg, but again, that's not going to be much of any help for heavy metal bass playing.
In other words, there's a lot of information out there, but it only works if you learn it AND apply it to your music.
There's no definitive music theory on the music that is going to be created tomorrow, for that you need your ears... but if you know any theory, you'll be able to create quicker.
You didn’t finish your question, @IamGroot...
...”need theory” - for what?
If you want to talk to other musicians yes you need some theory. It's the language we use.
It is literally the language of music.
You don't want an electrician working on your house who knows little or no electrical theory (Ohms Law and whatnot).
I don't want to play with musicians who know little or no theory.
...if you play more than a few years, you can't help but incorporate music theory, whether you are aware of it or not...
I've written and recorded about 100 songs. I've played in successful original bands and toured in the US and abroad. I've played in about 50 cover bands. I've performed with some well known musicians as well as some of the most talented on the planet. I currently earn most of my living playing bass.
I know very little, if any, theory.
I certainly do.
Most musicians probably know more theory than they think they do. If you know a scale, any scale at all, you know some theory. If you know the shape for a major triad on your bass, you know some theory. Heck, if you know what a root note is, you know some theory.
Knowing is ALWAYS better than not knowing.
Maybe you don't.
So you are just like Bobby Vega then. He played with TOP and everyone there reads. He does encourage everyone to learn how to sight read. If these top talented musicians in the planet, did you ever had to read a chart. Even if it is a number chart then you must know more than little. If you played jazz then you know theory. You just don't have a music degree
Miles Davis Christian McBride dropped out of music school.
Seems like an ignorant post. Music theory is useful in a cover band. We take all requests and if we don’t know it the guitarist calls out the chords he will play and we roll. Also a lot more money having a good career combined with weekend cover gigs vs a full time theory musician.