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Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by steve2, Nov 27, 2001.

  1. steve2


    Sep 23, 2001
    Piney Flats, TN
    Does anyone have an Envelope Filter FX 25B. How do you like it. I notice that it sells for about $50 at MF. Thanks for the input.

  2. LowfreqB


    Nov 10, 2000
    United States
    I have one you buy for $35.00, Its an ok pedal for studio work, however I have a hard time making it work in a loud funk band. You can find them on ebay everyday of the week going between $20 and $45 If I had to buy another dod it would be the older model. It sounds so much better. I tested them both side by side last month. The fx25 has much more low end.

    Side note, I tried the line6 filter pedel today. It does a great imatation of the q trons, mu trons, fx25's, boss synth, and auto wah.
  3. Johnalex


    Jul 20, 2001
    South Carolina
    Yeah I agree with Lowfreq.....
    I own that pedal and it is very quite. It sounds good when I record with it and boost up the volume. But when I am just messing around it is not equal in volume when I turn the effect on. Other then that I really like the pedal. It sounds really funky! ......real Funky.
  4. Useless for funk bass.....thin, extreme highs....then speaker-ripping bass. Very erratic and uncontrollable. However....
    It is WICKED for dub bass!! So great! Set the filter up so it barely opens, if at all, then dub out. It is like having a mini-subharmonic synth w/o the tracking hassle.
    There are loads of decent EV fiters out there for funk....buy one of those instead.
  5. Tristan


    Jan 28, 2001
    Ottawa, Canada
    i have to agree with MS. at some points in the filter sweep, it sounds thin, at other points it'll overdrive your amp due to the excess bass. i got rid of it before i tried the dub thing, but i've heard its cool for that from a lot of people.
  6. chickeNeck


    Dec 6, 2001
    MS is soooo right about the dub thang, I have 2 of them pedals, one for hip-hop room shaking, and the other for what it's designed for (heh). It ROCKS.

    The "dub" effect works better on passive short scale basses, giving you much more range (I'm assuming you know what I'm talking about). Actually, the short scale bass also makes octave and envelope filters easier to manage, and this makes sense considering the DODs (and most less expensive stomp boxes for these effects) were originally designed for guitar.

    The volume is a little lacking when used, so maybe you should consider an EQ pedal as well. You can boost the output loss with the eq pedal (DOD's has gain control), and make up for any frequency loss you might want back as well. Worth a shot!

    The EQ pedal can also work as a "lead" pedal for when you need a little more output even when you're not using the 25B.

    What? Too many pedals? Make yourself a board to manage cables/power or go with 'all in one' rackmount effects.

    MS - try using TWO 25Bs set for "dub". It's double the pleasure!!! (provided you have tons of headroom on your amp - them lows can really tax your amp)

  7. So, you mean two DOD fx25's in series? Both set for that static filter, barely open subharmonic bloom thang? I use the range control more as a volume. I set it at about 12:00, sometimes a hair more. The sensitivity I set at about 11:00 or more depending on the song. One seems plenty huge for me....I used it last night numerous times through out our dubwise set. Damn, I love this box. To think, I once despised it so much that I sold it for next to nothing. You can find 'em for about $25 if you look. So great.....Laswell in a can.
  8. chickeNeck


    Dec 6, 2001
    Hey MS,

    Yep. Cute AND cheap!

    This is what I do to get crazy subharmonix that make jaws drop and booties shake:

    Use two in line (series) with the blend at 100%, and sensitivity set to 0% (it doesn't really matter what you do to the range control cuz the effect will never trigger). This will give you even more "boom-van" bass. I "sub" (heh) in a hip hop band from time to time and we're all pretty happy with the amount of air pushed by my cab with those little green guys working. Theoretically, I believe connecting 5 of em in line would onslaught you with sub harmonic overtones.

    HOWEVER, ALWAYS TRY BEFORE YOU BUY. Like I said, this effect has much more range (the entire E string, and up to D on the A string) on short scale basses, so you may not like what you get. That can also be said of active electronics, and tube preamps also help you get this effect. Although, I've never tried it out on a passive 5 string, so there could be a lot more in the sub bass frequency range that I'm missing out on. This is my setup for that effect specifically:

    75 Fender Musicmaster (duncan blade pickup - not stock)
    Eden WT600/410XLT
    2 FX25Bs in line (NOT FX LOOP!)

    I actually got even better results with my old rig setup:

    SWR 350/Eden 410T cab

    I hope some of this helps, feel free to email me direct at [email protected].

    Later on bro!

  9. I'm thinking that w/ your passive setup you'd need that extra box. My DOD-box is so huge and loud already that I couldn't possibly justify using another; mine has more than enough volume. I too get that "boom-van" bass, which is most lovely indeed......
    I use a couple o' Warwicks w/ Alembic innards and my Mesa M-2000/ 2xEden D212XLT set up. I also use my Korg G5 bass synth and Prunes+custard for on occasion for moving large quantities of air. The DOD I dig because you don't have the tracking hassles of octavers and all that....in the past I've used that DOD Meatbox, a DBX Subharmonic synth and my EBS octaver with varying results.
  10. SKB

    SKB Guest

    My fx-25b works when it wants to. Sometimes when i switch the pedal off, nothing works.The filter stops but so does any other sounds. It becomes completely dead, DOD sucks. Sounds pretty cool though.
  11. danqi


    May 21, 2001
    I just watched my flea video again and to me it sounds like his DOD produces a combination of up and down sounds. Like when he plays higher notes its "up" and then he drops in a low E with a "down" sound.
    I can set my EBS BassIQ only to either produce down OR up sounds.
    Or did I just not listen right?