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does a cast frame speaker sound better than a stamped frame speaker...

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by ccyork, Mar 28, 2006.


  1. ccyork

    ccyork

    Jan 26, 2004
    USA
    ...or why is it considered better?

    :confused:
     
  2. buzzbass

    buzzbass Shoo Shoo Retarded Flu !

    Apr 23, 2003
    NJ
    Generally the cast frames are considered stiffer, not necessarilly better sounding. The stiffenss is desireable at high volume levels, supposedly it keeps the frames from distorting(out of shape) if pushed too hard.
     
  3. greenboy

    greenboy

    Dec 18, 2000
    remote mountain cabin Montana
    greenboy designs: fEARful, bassic, dually, crazy88 etc
    For higher powered speakers of larger diameter a cast frame is desirable. Otherwise it's often just added cost (EDIT: and usually weight too) ... unless the driver it comes on is the only one with T-S parameters and specs that'll work for your application ; }
     
  4. ccyork

    ccyork

    Jan 26, 2004
    USA
    Thanks for the feedback. So it sounds like I probably don't have to worry about stamped frame drivers in a 2x10 250 Watt cabinet configuration then.
     
  5. greenboy

    greenboy

    Dec 18, 2000
    remote mountain cabin Montana
    greenboy designs: fEARful, bassic, dually, crazy88 etc
    Nope : }
     
  6. billfitzmaurice

    billfitzmaurice Commercial User

    Sep 15, 2004
    New Hampshire
    Owner, Bill Fitzmaurice Loudspeaker Design
    Cast aluminum frames are necessary with heavy magnets, more than 50 ounces or so, as steel would twist out of alignment. They're also a requirement for ultra light neo magnets, as they act as heatsinks for the thermally sensitive neodymium. They have no effect on sound.
     
  7. Interesting... I knew about the 'heavy magnet' thing, but couldn't figure out why they would bother with those super sturdy frames for those little neo magnets.... heatsinks.... makes total sense.
     
  8. ccyork

    ccyork

    Jan 26, 2004
    USA
  9. greenboy

    greenboy

    Dec 18, 2000
    remote mountain cabin Montana
    greenboy designs: fEARful, bassic, dually, crazy88 etc
    Think it might even say so in at least one company's literature ; }
     
  10. greenboy

    greenboy

    Dec 18, 2000
    remote mountain cabin Montana
    greenboy designs: fEARful, bassic, dually, crazy88 etc
  11. ccyork

    ccyork

    Jan 26, 2004
    USA
    If you click on "specifications" it will show they are using stamped frame drivers.
     
  12. greenboy

    greenboy

    Dec 18, 2000
    remote mountain cabin Montana
    greenboy designs: fEARful, bassic, dually, crazy88 etc
    Yeah. But no piccie - and de details are where de debbil lives or dies. Running a search right now ...
     
  13. el_Kabong

    el_Kabong

    Jul 11, 2005
    Cast aluminium frames also don't influence the magnetic field of the driver like a steel frame does, fwiw.
     
  14. billfitzmaurice

    billfitzmaurice Commercial User

    Sep 15, 2004
    New Hampshire
    Owner, Bill Fitzmaurice Loudspeaker Design
    The Eminence Basslites use stamped frames and that's why they're only rated for 150 watts, they don't have adequate heat-sinking to handle more.
     
  15. greenboy

    greenboy

    Dec 18, 2000
    remote mountain cabin Montana
    greenboy designs: fEARful, bassic, dually, crazy88 etc
    So far it's looking like GK and anyone not in the know who uses the Basslites will have a lot of complaints - right after the warranty expires ; }
     
  16. billfitzmaurice

    billfitzmaurice Commercial User

    Sep 15, 2004
    New Hampshire
    Owner, Bill Fitzmaurice Loudspeaker Design
    Not necessarily, 300 watts is plenty enough for most 2x, and 600 is fine for a 4x, while 1200 is quite adequate for an 8x. Where I wouldn't use a Basslite is in a 1x, unless it was a practice cab or monitor wedge.
     
  17. greenboy

    greenboy

    Dec 18, 2000
    remote mountain cabin Montana
    greenboy designs: fEARful, bassic, dually, crazy88 etc
    Bill,

    Well, you know 300 is enough, and I know it's enough. But -

    ; }
     
  18. ccyork

    ccyork

    Jan 26, 2004
    USA
    The GK is 300watts at 8ohms into a 1x12.
     
  19. billfitzmaurice

    billfitzmaurice Commercial User

    Sep 15, 2004
    New Hampshire
    Owner, Bill Fitzmaurice Loudspeaker Design
    I wouldn't want to be using a steel framed Neo driver with 300watts input.
     

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