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Does anyone make a universal pickup?

Discussion in 'Pickups & Electronics [BG]' started by James Collins, Jan 19, 2018.


  1. James Collins

    James Collins

    Mar 25, 2017
    Augusta, GA
    By that, I mean does anyone make a pickup that would look like a Humbucker, but could be split to a J, a P, or a reverse P with something like a turn pot?

    I searched on the forums and have looked online, but don't see anything like it.
     
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  2. Killed_by_Death

    Killed_by_Death Snaggletooth Inactive

  3. ctmullins

    ctmullins fueled by beer and coconut Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 18, 2008
    MS Gulf Coast
    I'm highly opinionated and extremely self-assured
    There are more architectures in the universe than J, P, and humbucker.
     
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  4. Wfrance3

    Wfrance3 Supporting Member

    May 29, 2014
    Tulsa, OK
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  5. James Collins

    James Collins

    Mar 25, 2017
    Augusta, GA
    I get that. Maybe I should list it as "universal" since that would encompass the vast majority of pickup types. Thank you for the useful comment.
     
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  6. James Collins

    James Collins

    Mar 25, 2017
    Augusta, GA
    EDIT: I stand corrected. Thank you for your help.


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    I have something similar to this already. But its a good start. The only difference would be that it would split something like...
    Position 1:
    _______
    / O O O O \
    \ O O O O /

    Position 2:
    _______
    / X X X X \
    \ O O O O /

    Position 3:
    _______
    / X X X X \
    \ O O O O /

    Position 4:
    _______
    / O O X X \
    \ X X O O /

    Position 5:
    _______
    / X X O O \
    \ O O X X /
     
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  7. two fingers

    two fingers Opinionated blowhard. But not mad about it. Gold Supporting Member

    Feb 7, 2005
    Eastern NC USA
    Pretty much all of the major players in the pickup game are making a "quad coil" pickup. You can wire them in humbucker (both series and parallel) by engaging all four coils, "P bass" by using the coils on opposing corners, "reverse P", and "Jazz" by using either pair of coils. They all come in various sizes and shapes and seem to all come in 4, 5, and 6 strings variations.

    MM4.4 Quad Coil

    xxP46C-B | Bartolini Pickups and Electronics

    Products
     
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  8. James Collins

    James Collins

    Mar 25, 2017
    Augusta, GA
    Oh ok...maybe i misunderstood the link above then. This is exactly what I was looking for.
     
  9. socialleper

    socialleper Bringer of doom and top shelf beer Supporting Member

    May 31, 2009
    Canyon Country, CA
    I saw Rudy Sarzo talking about the SIMS Super Quad. I haven't seen or heard them in person, so I can't vouch for how well they pull it off. I like the idea.
     
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  10. ctmullins

    ctmullins fueled by beer and coconut Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 18, 2008
    MS Gulf Coast
    I'm highly opinionated and extremely self-assured
    Even within the realm of J and P, you won’t get exactly what you’re looking for, as the J pickup coil is tall and thin and the P pickup coil is short and fat. These characteristics contribute to the signature tone. But if all you’re interested in is the position of the coils, then the quad-coils will work for you.
     
  11. James Collins

    James Collins

    Mar 25, 2017
    Augusta, GA
    I was thinking of getting an inexpensive HH bass and swapping out the pickups for the fun of it. That is all. My plan right now (because of the bass I'm looking at) is to go with something like a stacked volume/volume (or volume/blend) and two 5 way rotary selectors like PRS uses to control what sort of pickup is in each. Again, it is mostly for fun if I go through with it and I am not seeking any particular tone with the project.
     
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  12. Killed_by_Death

    Killed_by_Death Snaggletooth Inactive

    If you want some interesting configuration sounds, do the dual humbuckers bit, but use a 5-way blade switch to select individual coils of each humbucker in positions 4 & 2. (one is parallel coils vs. series)
    My guitar is set up like this & it is pretty incredible how different the timbre of each position is.

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    or another option would be to put in a push/pull volume for each pickup & have it set up to switch between series & parallel coils of each humbucker:

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  13. socialleper

    socialleper Bringer of doom and top shelf beer Supporting Member

    May 31, 2009
    Canyon Country, CA
    I recently conducted a test on TB that concluded that while not every pickup in a mid\neck position can convincingly imitate a split single coil, the right jazz style single coil in the right position will fool people 9 times out of 10.
    Generally position\configuration means more to your tone than coil size.
     
  14. two fingers

    two fingers Opinionated blowhard. But not mad about it. Gold Supporting Member

    Feb 7, 2005
    Eastern NC USA
    That would be a super fun project. Sharpen your soldering iron!!!! :D
     
  15. Axstar

    Axstar Inactive

    Jul 8, 2016
    Scotland.
    If anything that would put me off them. :roflmao:
     
  16. InhumanResource

    InhumanResource

    Dec 28, 2012
    Absolutely. I do this all the time on my jazz and with the right tweak to the mids I'd say it is indistinguishable.
     
  17. non

    non

    Aug 4, 2015
    i believe mark from talkingbass uses these pickups in two of his basses.
     
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  18. TheMaynorD

    TheMaynorD Gold Supporting Member

    Aug 28, 2013
    Oklahoma City
    Do some digging on the nordstrand website. It takes some serious electonics work, but a lot of boutique nordstrand equipped basses have ridiculous amounts of options between single coil, dual coil, etc. Your average GC guitar tech probably can't wire it for you though.
     
  19. Wfrance3

    Wfrance3 Supporting Member

    May 29, 2014
    Tulsa, OK
    I saw that too.
     
  20. There are lots of possibilities with today’s aftermarket pickups.

    I get a lot of variety out of this bass. HH, HS, SH, SS, single H, single S are all possible.
    427C677E-CD62-4152-A0F6-ACBDBAF5FEB8.jpeg Lot of companies now make a p pickup in a soap bar or humbucker shell. ESP has used EMG p pickups in with the 35dc and 40dc shells in several of their models including the surveyor and the newer stream basses.
     
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