Does anyone own the Markbass R500?

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by willsellout, Dec 17, 2007.

  1. willsellout

    willsellout I apologize in advance. Supporting Member

    Aug 13, 2002
    Fort Wayne, IN
    I did a search with minimal results. Does anyone have any real world experience with this amp? I'm basically looking for power and tone characteristics and the overall feel of the amp. Any input would be appreciated!


    Dan
     
  2. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Yamaha, Ampeg, Line 6, EMG
    Unfortunately, these haven't been widely distributed in the US yet. But I'm really looking forward to trying it. I only briefly tried an SD800 and thought it sounded similar to the LM II, but I didn't really wind it out. However, I know one or two of these gearhads on here have tried it. Tom Bowlus' name is sticking in my head for some reason.
     
  3. r379

    r379 Guest

    Jul 28, 2004
    Dallas, Texas
    I played one briefly at the local GC last week. I didn't spend a lot of time with it but I liked what I heard. I'm basically one of those "tube-in-the-preamp" guys so it interested me.

    I didn't fiddle with it exhaustively (I was there to audition cabinets) but I hope to get a little further ahead money-wise later this year and I'm definitely going to take a closer look. I also liked the fact that the tone controls were simple enough for an old guy like me. If it'll do what I want I'm gonna lose the 50 lb. rack case.

    I expect to be at GC later this week and if I get the opportunity I'll fool with it some more.
     
  4. koobie

    koobie

    Jul 11, 2007
    Portland OR
    They had one on the floor of the Clackamus GC last week. How far are you from Portland? FWIW, I preferred the less expensive LMII.
     
  5. willsellout

    willsellout I apologize in advance. Supporting Member

    Aug 13, 2002
    Fort Wayne, IN
    Yeah I just called them and they still have it. I was going back and forth between this and the LMII and figured I tend to like a little bit of tube warmth in my tone and everyone raves about Markbass on here so I said "Why not":D.
    I'm in Coos Bay though which is about 4 hours away so it would be shipped to me.

    Dan
     
  6. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Yamaha, Ampeg, Line 6, EMG
    Worst that happens is you eat a little shipping to return it. Please write a review when you get it.
     
  7. Rhythm5

    Rhythm5 Guest

    Dec 29, 2006
    Palmdale, California
    I'm always a little bummed when amp companies think that us rock bassist only want "simple" controls. I would have liked to see MB keep their usually eq section in this amp. As it is, I find the EQ to limiting.
     
  8. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Yamaha, Ampeg, Line 6, EMG
    Buy an EQ if you want Markbass then. I play rock and I want simple controls :spit: :D
     
  9. willsellout

    willsellout I apologize in advance. Supporting Member

    Aug 13, 2002
    Fort Wayne, IN
    Thats a selling point for me. A lot of amps nowadays are just too gimicky with all the controls. It's nice I guess but I really like the simple approach they take.


    Dan
     
  10. tombowlus

    tombowlus If it sounds good, it is good Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 3, 2003
    North central Ohio
    Editor-in-Chief, Bass Gear Magazine
    I really liked the model they had at NAMM, though I am not sure if the preamp didn't change somewhat, relative to the production model. I could have sworn that the R 500 at NAMM had the same 3-tube preamp as the Classic 300, but it looks like the production unit has one preamp tube. Still, I'd love to spend some more time with one. I, for one, did not find the EQ too limiting (at least not on the unit I heard).

    Tom.
     
  11. koobie

    koobie

    Jul 11, 2007
    Portland OR
    Bear in mind this was during an admittedly quick test/comparison, though I was already very familiar with the LMII, having owned one for a month. I compared both heads into a MB 15 cab with a MB 210 cab on top. Cabs sounded fine for the purposes of comparing these two heads. Basses were an American P and a J, both with rounds.

    I was mainly interested in the tonal differences in the heads, they have more than enough power for my needs. I didn't find the eq of the R500 limiting, to the contrary I found the higher frequency center of the bass control more useful than the 40 Hz control on the LMII. I also didin't miss the LMII's VLE, which as another poster pointed out in a different thread, seems like a variable low pass filter.

    So did the R500 sound/feel like a nice tube amp? To me, no. My main impression is that with the R500's drive on the lower end of the scale, the overall tone of the R500 was not as clear as the LMII. Dialing in additional drive didn't seem to add harmonic complexity, the tone just got less distinct, murkier. Again, that's my main impression from a short demo/comparo a month back. I might give it another listen, I was really curious/hopeful (who wouldn't want a flyweight 500 watt tube amp?) about the R500. I came away thinking that a LMII (with a nice drive pedal) would be a more flexible (you could switch the drive settings on & off) and cheaper solution for a rock player than a R500.

    To the OP, if you get an R500, I'd like to get your impressions on how the tone compares to your GBE1200.
     
  12. tombowlus

    tombowlus If it sounds good, it is good Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 3, 2003
    North central Ohio
    Editor-in-Chief, Bass Gear Magazine
    When I played the R 500 that they had at NAMM, I was definitely able to get some overdrive out of it, so this might be a different preamp section, after all.
     
  13. Rhythm5

    Rhythm5 Guest

    Dec 29, 2006
    Palmdale, California
    I tried using an EBS ValveDrive going into my LMII and it helped the tone a lot IMO. The trick is keeping the drive down low enough so it doesn't sound like a distortion pedal. If set low enough, it did seem to add some of that "harmonic complexity" that helped the LMII sound more like a tube amp. ( I guess at that point, it almost is)
     
  14. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Yamaha, Ampeg, Line 6, EMG
    EBS Valve Drive...interesting...maybe I'll try that in the near future.
     
  15. tombowlus

    tombowlus If it sounds good, it is good Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 3, 2003
    North central Ohio
    Editor-in-Chief, Bass Gear Magazine
    That's a great box, BTW.
     
  16. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Yamaha, Ampeg, Line 6, EMG
    Ya, if you can get it! My Microbass II took me two months to get. I hope EBS has gotten their distribution act together since then.
     
  17. Rhythm5

    Rhythm5 Guest

    Dec 29, 2006
    Palmdale, California
    Perfect Bass has them in stock, and on sale right now...with free shipping! Adds a cool twist to the LMII sound.
    Also, the TA503 comes out in a few months. I was told that sound is somewhere between a LMII and a R500.
     
  18. Bluesman89

    Bluesman89 Guest

    Nov 24, 2008
    Dude I own and r500 with an epifani 2x10 and i love it i play blues and some jazz finer style and i love it the great thing about not having the vpf and vle is that it is all analog and tubed pre as well as no compressor so you get a nice bit of drtyness if you drive it but i dont but it is great!! pure tone!!!!
     
  19. zephoria

    zephoria

    Oct 26, 2006
    Waco, Texas
    i have owned an r500 for about a year and a half and i love it. i gig fairly often and (beside my current money issues) would not trade it for the world... with that being said i find it necessary to sell some of my equipment, this being a biggy. it is in perfect condition and i think it still has the gc extended warrenty (that i believe is transferable). i will look that up later. pm me if you are interested at all.
     
  20. sockdeluxe_mike

    sockdeluxe_mike Guest

    Jul 13, 2007
    Brighton, UK
    I put a DHA VT-1 EQ tube bass driver into my SA450, and it gets *very* close to producing a convincing all tube tone - that, and the fact that it's obviously footswitchable makes me almost prefer having an amazing SS amp like the MarkBass but with the option of switching in big fat tube clean or big fat tube distortion if desired.