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Does this bass preamp exist?

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by jcburn, Jul 18, 2021.

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  1. Jul 18, 2021 #1
    jcburn

    jcburn

    Oct 11, 2003
    Tasmania, Australia.
    I really like my Aguilar Tonehammer DI as a pedal DI, but I wish it had 2 semi-parametric mid controls, the bass frequency is way too low in my opinion (40hz to me is just too boomy/undefinied - 80-100 sounds better to me for thump) - and I'd also like it to have a variable HP and LP filter.

    Does this pedal preamp pedal exist apart from Darkglass suggestions?

    4 band active Eq
    - bass freq centre 80-100hz
    - 2 semi-parametric mid controls
    - Treble control somewhere between 4-5 Khz

    Mild amp type overdrive, switchable on or off (this isn't absolutely necessary, but I'll include anyhow)

    Variable HP and LP filters

    Or could someone like Josh broughton build something similar? I realise the best way is to ask him, but I don't like to ask unless I am a little more sure sucha thing is possible - plus I would need to get some funds together so at this point just fact finding.

    Appreciate any suggestions apart from Darkglass. Darkglass stuff really is great - the drive flavour just isn't for me.
     
  2. Jul 18, 2021 #2
    LightForce104

    LightForce104 Supporting Member

    Sep 13, 2012
    Hawaii/Washington
    Broughton Messenger (the old version) is the closest I know. Treble is at 3k and there's no OD, but it has the rest of what you want. He also doesn't do custom work anymore.
     
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  3. Jul 18, 2021 #3
    Zooberwerx

    Zooberwerx Gold Supporting Member

    Dec 21, 2002
    Virginia Beach, VA
    Speaking from experience...

    Get a Tech 21 Q Strip and stick your existing ToneHammer on the front end. I preferred the Fairfields Barbershop but used it as an always-on device.

    Riis
     
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  4. Jul 18, 2021 #4
    Mosfed

    Mosfed

    Apr 21, 2013
    Washington DC
    Partner - CCP Pedals
    Get a Broughton messenger and your overdrive of choice.
     
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  5. Jul 18, 2021 #5
    jcburn

    jcburn

    Oct 11, 2003
    Tasmania, Australia.
    Q-Strip wasn't on my horizon but nice call.
    Messenger I had already checked out and still in the mix.

    To be honest I get 90% of the drive tone I want from an EBS Billy Sheehan Deluxe (I call it bright\modern\grindy but not at all fizzy) plus the compressor in this pedal does everything I want a comp to do. The AGS then does the tube type of warm breakup so I would only need to have a unit with this type of drive if I moved the Tone Hammer on.

    I may just need to utilize the Q-Strip or Messenger directly after the TH for the EQ I want.

    Time to hit YouTube for some Q-Strip :)
     
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  6. Jul 18, 2021 #6
    jthisdell

    jthisdell

    Jun 12, 2014
    Roanoke, VA
    I have the v1 Messenger and it is a great pre. I use it with a variety of OD’s and a TH500.
     
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  7. Jul 18, 2021 #7
    derrico1

    derrico1 Supporting Member

    Apr 12, 2005
    Charlottesville, VA
    Helix Stomp
     
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  8. Jul 18, 2021 #8
    bdplaid

    bdplaid Supporting Member

    Aug 31, 2007
    florida
    Closest I can think of is the tech 21 Q-tone or whatever it's called.
     
  9. Jul 18, 2021 #9
    pbassnut

    pbassnut Supporting Member

    Sep 27, 2004
    Falls Church, VA
    You might consider the Tech 21 Para Driver stomp box (same as their RPM rack mount preamp which I have). It has an 80 Hz bass EQ center point and a 3.2 kHz treble EQ center point and a drive control for overdrive. However, it only has a single band of semi-parametric EQ. I like mine and it's a proven industry warhorse ... check it out.
     
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  10. Jul 18, 2021 #10
    40Hz

    40Hz Supporting Member

    May 24, 2006
    home
    Adding an outboard parametric EQ, (or a bass oriented multi-band graphic EQ in a pinch) would get you there.
     
  11. Jul 18, 2021 #11
    Element Zero

    Element Zero Supporting Member

    Dec 14, 2016
    California
    Mesa Subway Plus DI is close
     
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  12. Jul 18, 2021 #12
    Kevin Hailey

    Kevin Hailey Supporting Member

    Oct 24, 2011
    Brooklyn NY
  13. Jul 18, 2021 #13
    RichSnyder

    RichSnyder Columbia, MD Supporting Member

    Jun 19, 2003
    Yeah, this is the best path I can think of for a very specific set of requirements. A custom build which would be insanely expensive, or do it in the digital realm. Buy a used Stomp and if you don't like the end result, flip it for little to no loss.
     
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  14. Jul 18, 2021 #14
    Nighttrain1127

    Nighttrain1127

    Nov 27, 2004
    Near Worcester MA
    Source Audio EQ2. I believe it can do everything you want and then some plus 6 onboard presets and expandable with MIDI pedal
     
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  15. Jul 18, 2021 #15
    Lit311

    Lit311

    Jul 6, 2016
    I, too, was on a search for such a thing and the Q-strip knocks it out. The low- mid and High-mid frequency select is a great resource. It’s last in my chain and I’m either using it as a DI, or running the 1/4 inch out to my power amp.

    It had a button for HPF and LPF, a 1/4 nah boost and an xlr cut.

    It’s perfect for what I need it to do.
     
  16. Jul 18, 2021 #16
    RichSnyder

    RichSnyder Columbia, MD Supporting Member

    Jun 19, 2003
    I've wanted to try running a Q-Strip and a BDDI in parallel with the parallel output on the BDDI.
     
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  17. Jul 18, 2021 #17
    Sid Fang

    Sid Fang Reformed Fusion Player

    Jun 12, 2008
    EBS Microbass 3 should probably be mentioned here. I'm still using the older MB2, which is an incredibly versatile tool once you figure it out, but for the MB3, EBS added more of the things (e.g. dual parametric mid controls) that you're specifically asking for.
     
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  18. Jul 18, 2021 #18
    dbsfgyd1

    dbsfgyd1

    Jun 11, 2012
    Mascoutah, IL
    ‘My Eden (it’s in the Avatar on the rack above the power amp) although not a pedal, has the bass-treble controls , with a 3 band parametric EQ. optical compression with threshold and ratio controls . It does have a tube control that can provide warmth and in some extreme cases, a very mild distortion. There are other feature, as it is stereo, you can Bi-amp, side chain, I’ve never needed the a HPF or. LPF. Best wishes on your search.
     
  19. Jul 18, 2021 #19
    Ken Morgan

    Ken Morgan

    Jun 14, 2014
    Midland, TX
    yeah buddy.
     
  20. Jul 18, 2021 #20
    Deleted member 165050

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    Might seem excessive, but one of the TO Audio tube channel strips would do what you want. Rackmount though.

    Maybe just seek out an active parametric EQ pedal... Carl Martin does a good 3-band for example, or the Tech21 Q-Strip, Empress ParaEq etc.
     
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