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Does this look good? (HELP)

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by RexxRokket, Jan 27, 2017.


  1. RexxRokket

    RexxRokket

    Apr 23, 2012
    Hellnezuela
    I'm currently thinking on trading for a Japanese Gallan Hollowbody Bass from the 60's or maybe early 70's (no gigbag or hardcase included) the guy is telling me that his bass is worth between 400/470 $ but I can't really tell... so if any of you could tell me if that sounds good/fair I'd thank you.

    Here you have some pics of his:

    1 - https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.ne...=b24327d039f29baf910ba1596e2be816&oe=5910B345

    2 - https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.ne...=7d46d48219d388076bd818c7bfa1102d&oe=59076C76

    3 - https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.ne...=36f3f354fa4f0c78c924c8b6b811c799&oe=5915F9F8
    4 - https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.ne...=2c4904c8bbf877e9bab5b154791de1b8&oe=58FEF85F
    5 - https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.ne...=8c8bd63f0f5a4629cc4c40467535ae8c&oe=591373F2

    6 - https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.ne...=21458d58eb042d109fef7298fb3007b9&oe=58FDCF40

    7 - https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.ne...=3c3d16b3ceb96823d56501aaf8d8e177&oe=59185331
    8 - https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.ne...=0187853770924653a6cdef6214ba204e&oe=5949E2D4
    9 - https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.ne...=2000109574115768082a445003e56652&oe=5917D7D6

    10 - https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.ne...=c1269c3439503a1165fbed2d259b0890&oe=591B4B29
    11 - https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.ne...=1e77d8768e10810a5b895f8f2d362c6a&oe=591C167F

    12 - https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.ne...=0dfc07eaab8513c95a4925cf55062958&oe=591CA4CB
    13 - https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.ne...=814e95cb8a3e52c0a7e0e3b6201483ea&oe=590F33F5

    That's about it. So if anyone has a reason not to get this, speak now or forever hold your peace (haha).
     
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  2. BurnOut

    BurnOut It's The Billy Baloney Show Supporting Member

    Feb 1, 2015
    The Natti
    I can't tell you a value. I would just ask you if you like the sound, is it what you're looking for. How does it play, is it setup well. I would go over it with a fine tooth comb. Does it have a case, and your case adds about a hundred, is that figured into your price. This seems to be quite a departure from what you have. If it all checks out and you are happy, that's really all that matters. I've traded instruments for ones that are of less value because they fit better with what I had going. Then again maybe you'll luck out and it's worth some coin.
     
  3. RexxRokket

    RexxRokket

    Apr 23, 2012
    Hellnezuela
    I'm wanting a hollowbody since some time ago... yes, 400$ with the case, his bass has no case or whatsoever, his bass is around that price (he told me that the price is around that... cause I can't find any inf on the net, just prices of similar basses of hat period of time from Japan with similar caracteristics, nothing concrete tho). How much would you think that it may cost jugding from those pics above?
     
  4. BurnOut

    BurnOut It's The Billy Baloney Show Supporting Member

    Feb 1, 2015
    The Natti
    I couldn't tell you what it's worth. I'm pretty sure that we can't tell you that information because you are not a supporting member. It's one of the rules here.
     
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  5. mp40smg

    mp40smg

    Aug 11, 2010
    Worcester, Ma.
    The 60s and early 70s for Japanese instruments were definitely not regarded for being great. Generally a step below the Italian made instruments. If you've played it, and liked it. Gone through it really carefully and it plays in tune past the 5th fret, etc then you may luck out and get something good. You will definitely have a rarity and something nobody else is likely to show up to a battle of the bands with.

    I would never be able to get around any ES type with a bolt on neck. I would never do that based solely on principle and seeing that neck plate would drive me nuts.
     
  6. Can you play it first? Otherwise, I'd be shy to jump, unless you really want it and don't dig your present axe... personally I like it...
     
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  7. Andyman001

    Andyman001 moderation must be taken with a grain of salt

    Feb 11, 2010
    Idaho
    Play it through an amp. That single pu that close to the neck will probably be pretty muddy sounding, so make sure it can sound good in the setting you will use it for.

    IMO ;)
     
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  8. smperry

    smperry Administrator Staff Member Administrator Gold Supporting Member

    Nov 3, 2003
    Bay Area, CA
    This is correct. I've edited the OP so it's more about whether the bass to possibly get is worth around $400, since that type of question is okay from members without a supporting membership. So, now, it's like a "Should I get this bass" type question. Thanks.
     
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  9. BurnOut

    BurnOut It's The Billy Baloney Show Supporting Member

    Feb 1, 2015
    The Natti
    I'm fairly new here, but I learn from example. They've taught me well.
     
  10. smperry

    smperry Administrator Staff Member Administrator Gold Supporting Member

    Nov 3, 2003
    Bay Area, CA
    I agree with this. The bass is probably going to have a very unique sound that you might like or really dislike. I would not personally, as I don't think it would work for my preferences.
     
  11. BusyFingers

    BusyFingers

    Nov 26, 2016
    I agree that playing it and hearing it will tell the tale. If it functions well, feels good, and gets the tone you want, it's worth the $400 trade value.
     
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  12. Bob Clayton

    Bob Clayton My P doesn’t have flats or tort Staff Member Supporting Member

    Aug 14, 2001
    Philly Suburbs
    I wouldn't, but that's just me.
     
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  13. I disagree with the comment that Japanese basses of that era were poorly made, quite the contrary, many are very well made. That said play it, if it plays well, sounds good, it will be a bassy possibly muddy tone with that pickup in the neck position, and it doesn't have any obvious flaws I think it's well wort $400. The is a Japanese bass thread on here somewhere. Find it and post it up there and you will probably find someone who knows about this brand, it may well have come out of one of the great Japanese factories that made high quality copy's of American basses. It is after all a very close copy of a Gibson Bass. I also wouldn't be worried about it having a neck plate.
     
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  14. I took another look through G your pics and the more I look at it the more I think that $400 is a steal. This looks to be a very high quality EB 2 copy. I wouldn't be at all surprised if it came out of the Fugigen factory or the other high end one whose name I can't recall now. If I saw that local to me I'd buy it today if it played well. Even if the electronics didn't work, they can be fixed easily.
     
  15. A little more research on the web shows that this bass was made by Kyowa Shokai and was one of their better brands. They made a lot of Gibson copy's.
     
  16. matante

    matante

    Nov 3, 2003
    Los Angeles
    I'd go for it but keep in mind that it's going to be a delicate bass. Have money set aside for repairs.
     
  17. GIBrat51

    GIBrat51 Innocent as the day is long Supporting Member

    Mar 5, 2013
    Lost Wages, Nevada
    Epi EA-260 Bass.JPG EA-250 Epi-1. I'm not familiar with that particular brand, but I am sorta familiar with the type. These are two of mine; An Epiphone EA-260 bass, and the companion EA-250 guitar. These were made in the early '70s by Matsumoko, who - like several other Japanese companies at the time - made instruments that sold under several names. Like Chinese companies do today. Anyway...
    In general, Japanese hollowbody basses are well made, but they were made to a price. The hardware and the electronics are not top-shelf items, and while most of the pick ups are at least OK (the ones in my EA-250 guitar will blow your socks off), none of them would be considered high output today. It's also old; so don't be surprised if it sounds a little more feeble than you're used to. The necks on these tend to be pretty narrow, too. The makers hadn't quite realized that some people have bigger hands than most Japanese do. But, if you can play a Hofner? This one won't be a problem. As for that particular bass?
    - I'd guess it's older than mine are; mainly because the binding is very yellowed, and looks like it's starting to disintegrate. Looks a lot like the celluloid binding on some '50s Gretsches, in fact. If it is celluloid? There's no saving it; once it starts to go, it's gone. And, even if it isn't celluloid, I'd say new binding is needed in the near future. That isn't as big a deal as it sounds, though.
    - It's missing a knob - but you know that. Those can be replaced (don't hold your breath trying to find an original, though). But, be very sure that all the electrics work. If they don't? Imagine how thrilled a tech/luthier is going to be, trying to work on that bass through the F-holes. The guy I always go to, lives in fear that I'll show up with my Gretsch Broadkaster in hand one morning...
    - Be very, very sure that the truss rod works, and that the neck is nice and straight. It's a bolt on neck; don't be surprised if it needs a shim - or already has one. I actually have 3 old Epis - these 2, and a Frankenstein 12-string conversion. 2 of them have shimmed necks. It's not a big deal with these; just don't be surprised.
    - Other than that? Looks to be in pretty nice shape, considering it's age. Could stand a good cleaning, though... And, as for a case? An Epi EB case should fit, I imagine.

    Personally? Doesn't sound like a bad price to me - if it's got a straight neck; a working truss rod; and all the electrics work. In spite of the binding, I'd go for it - if it was a lefty. If you do buy it, just remember that it's a hollowbody, and it's old... and, give it the respect that a bass that's been around that long deserves...:thumbsup:
     
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  18. I don't know what prices are like in Venezuela, but in the US that would probably go for $200 - $300
     
  19. GIBrat51

    GIBrat51 Innocent as the day is long Supporting Member

    Mar 5, 2013
    Lost Wages, Nevada
    Prices for older Japanese basses like this are hard to pin down, but, generally, it's been creeping up in the last few years - depending on the name on the headstock. Although they're the same bass under the finish, an Aria 5120 bass, for example, usually sells for more than an Epiphone EA-5120e - simply because the headstock says "Aria". And they both sell for more than the one that says "Conrad" on the headstock. Still exactly the same bass under the finish, though. But, all 3 sell for more now than they did a few years ago. As other "vintage" basses dry up, or become beyond some people's reach, these early Japanese basses are becoming more desirable. What else is there, if you want vintage, but don't want to (or can't) pay the asking price for, say, a vintage Fender? So, is that too much for a Gallan? I don't know for sure. I've never seen one before; but sometimes being a little...out of the mainstream?... is a good thing, price-wise. And, being a Gibson clone might not hurt, either...:)
     
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  20. RexxRokket

    RexxRokket

    Apr 23, 2012
    Hellnezuela
    Prices in Venezuela are unreal so I'm just using the universal currency of $. His is that Gallan Hollowbody Bass that you see in those pics which he says that is valued around 400/470 $
     
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