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Don't laugh: What exactly IS rock?

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous [BG]' started by NewWaveBasser, Feb 12, 2006.


  1. Oh that great philosophical question...

    but anyway...

    Where I live we are stuck in Headbangers Ball Land or so it seems.

    Where I live only the 80s exist.

    I see too many progmetalheads... talking about rock music as if it were an off-shoot of classical greats such as... Mozart or Beethoven. They talk as if you need a PhD in Music Theory from some hotshot Austrian university to play rock music.

    Yeah, for too many round here in my land rock is about cramming all known theory in 7 minutes of solo fury. Soul not required.

    While metal and progressive rock are part of the big and undefined spectrum that is rock, the fact that these people IGNORE things such as the origins of rock'n'roll in Southern Black America in the 1950s (as really a popular form of music) is astounding.

    Some so-called rockers say something is crap because it's simple. Funny, rock suffers the same rap from jazz people.

    I am just truly confused now.

    Then again it's usually guitarists with dreams of being the next Yngwie Malmsteen.

    No bassists are like that. Hmmm...


    But wankers, and drummers with endless kits too, aside...

    What is rock?

    :help: :rolleyes: :eek: :p
     
  2. Matt Till

    Matt Till

    Jun 1, 2002
    Edinboro, PA
    What is rock, baby don't hurt me.


    Well, your post left me a little confused as to why you are questioning what rock is. I honestly see ROCK as an attitude that you don't even need to see... you can hear it... an attitude that oozes through the speakers.

    Led Zeppelin
    AC/DC
    T-Rex
    Clutch
    Motorhead
    The Who
    Cream

    These are bands that I feel rock radiate from... the list could go on of course. Above all, I feel ROCK is an attitude thing. It's not so much an ego as much as a "We are bad ass and we know it" kinda vibe.
     

  3. See this here?? What you are doing?? analizing??




    Very "Not Rock"!!






    :D ...now, go smash some stones into each other to clear mind.
     
  4. Wrong Robot

    Wrong Robot Guest

    Apr 8, 2002
    Ya know, it's loud and simple guitar music that white people play.
     
  5. Rock'N'Roll is heathen Devil music.
     
  6. seanm

    seanm I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize! Supporting Member

    Feb 19, 2004
    Ottawa, Canada
    Except, of course, for Christian Death Metal.
     

  7. Christian Death Metal = Death to Christians Metal


    See, Lucifer is all over that one.
     
  8. Munjibunga

    Munjibunga Total Hyper-Elite Member Gold Supporting Member

    May 6, 2000
    San Diego (when not at Groom Lake)
    Independent Contractor to Bass San Diego
    I always laugh when I ask young musicians (usually guitar players) what kind of music they play, and their response is "rock", with a look of slight disdain on their faces.

    Dude. I was born in 1948. Rock was born in 1953. I've seen and heard every version of rock from then to now. Sorry, but you're going to have to be a touch more specific, k?
     

  9. Ahem....Hows about Shoegaze-Ambient-Cowpunk rock ? Muwahahahahaha
     
  10. Kronos

    Kronos

    Dec 28, 2005
    Philadelphia, PA
    Rock has so many subgenres anymore, and I think that people are too concerned with classification.

    When people ask me what I listen to, I give them band names. It's too hard to categorize everything anymore. Most bands nowadays are an amalgam of their influences.

    It is futile to figure out what the genre of Rock is.

    It's like asking what is Classical without going into different sub genres of classical, like Baroque for example.
     
  11. AxtoOx

    AxtoOx

    Nov 12, 2005
    Duncan, Okla.
    Yeah but then some get real specific, " I play post-punk-progessive-emo-deathmetal". HUH!!!
     

  12. Exactly, refer to my above post. Genres are poop and sub genres are the little nuts you sometimes see.
     
  13. AxtoOx

    AxtoOx

    Nov 12, 2005
    Duncan, Okla.
    You must have posted while I was still thinking, I didn't see that. Same point.
    I just say Classic and Blues based Rock, I'm happy w/ that. Though I do enjoy laying down a Funk groove.
     
  14. Munjibunga

    Munjibunga Total Hyper-Elite Member Gold Supporting Member

    May 6, 2000
    San Diego (when not at Groom Lake)
    Independent Contractor to Bass San Diego
    See? Now that wasn't so hard, was it?
     
  15. Munjibunga

    Munjibunga Total Hyper-Elite Member Gold Supporting Member

    May 6, 2000
    San Diego (when not at Groom Lake)
    Independent Contractor to Bass San Diego
    Now you've got it. Way to go!
     
  16. remo

    remo

    Jan 15, 2005
    rock is simple music for simple people.

    here are the rules of "rock".

    • it is in 4/4
    • it uses lots of 5th chords and no maj or min 7th's
    • the drum beat is very simlple and rhythmic
    • it is based around I-V
    • guitars must be mildly distorted at all times
    • you must be an active or recovering alchoholic or a heroin addict to truly be "rock".
    • you or a family member must have spent time behind bars
    • you must come from a working class background
    • you must have a "who gives a $#%$" attitude
    • you must have tattoos
    • you must have a marshall amp
    • you must only solo in the first position blues pentatonic scale at the 12th fret
    • all songs must be in E
    • all your songs must be about jail, women, cars, sex and drugs.
    • you must NEVER say words like "fragile", "sympathetic" or "texture".
    • and above all you must wear very tight jeans
     
  17. Bruce Lindfield

    Bruce Lindfield Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor Gold Supporting Member

    A 5th is not a chord - it's an interval!
     
  18. Trevorus

    Trevorus

    Oct 18, 2002
    Urbana, IL
    Thar's totally not rock...


    You're right, though. Chords with fifths.
     
  19. kserg

    kserg

    Feb 20, 2004
    London, UK
    Noise Polusion