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Double DVD of "The Old Grey Whistle Test"

Discussion in 'Recordings [BG]' started by Bruce Lindfield, Oct 19, 2001.


  1. Bruce Lindfield

    Bruce Lindfield Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor Gold Supporting Member

    Has anybody else got this - great nostalgia for me and some great music! For those who don't know about it TOGWT was a UK TV programme that got bands to play live in the studio - basically "album" bands from the 70s and 80s - this is the music I grew up with!!

    There are over 4 hours of live performances on the two DVDs!! Favourites so far :

    Edgar Winter - Frankenstein (over the top or what!)
    Tim Buckley - Dolphins with a pickup band of UK musicians.
    Little Feat with Lowell George
    Curtis Mayfield and Bill Withers
    Talking Heads doing Psycho Killer when they were "unknown"!
    Robert Wyatt, Teardrop Explodes, Specials, Japan - great!

    Loads of others, but I was really surprised that I enjoyed Lynyrd Skynyrd's "Freebird" - rock out! I must be getting old. ;)
     
  2. Oh man! I remember that from when I lived in the UK! I wonder if that DVD is available over here (NE USA)? I think I'll try amazon...

    - Wil

    PS: OK - here's a trivia question - where did the name "Old Grey Whistle Test" come from?
     
  3. Bruce Lindfield

    Bruce Lindfield Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor Gold Supporting Member

  4. Hey Bruce! Many thanks for the heads-up! - my copy is now on its way to me - isn't technology wonderul!

    - Wil
     
  5. bassmonkeee

    bassmonkeee Supporting Member

    Sep 13, 2000
    Decatur, GA
    Be careful, Will. DVD coding for Europe and the US are different. So, I'd make sure that the DVD is Region 1 before you buy it. I'd hate for you to spend the cash for a coaster.

    EDIT: I just checked. The link bruce put up is for region 2 only, so it will NOT work in a DVD player in the US.
     
  6. Bruce Lindfield

    Bruce Lindfield Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor Gold Supporting Member

    I presume that Will used the main Amazon site whereas I am using the UK one. This is an interesting point though. I just ordered a DVD from audiophile imports of "Shadows and Light" by Joni Mitchell (and Jaco) and they said that it will play in any DVD player.

    I have noticed that Amazon in the UK are also offering software that will allow you to play any DVD regions on a PlayStation 2 - I just got one of these - hence the sudden interest in DVDs! ;)
     
  7. Ah! Good catch - many thanks. I don't have a DVD player, but use my lap-top which can play DVDs and has an "S-video" out which I just plug into my TV. I noticed that when I set up the DVD player on the lap-top, it mentioned something about "regionalisation" and that I could change it - but only a limited number of times (5 I seem to remember). I wonder if it means that I can only change it 5 times, or I can only have 5 different regions set in it? Any ideas? Thanks again for a good catch!

    - Wil
     
  8. bassmonkeee

    bassmonkeee Supporting Member

    Sep 13, 2000
    Decatur, GA
    The DVD player for your computer can only be changed 5 different times, and it can only access one coding at a time. So, i'd be careful about changing it for one DVD. I don't know if the regionalization becomes burned after the 5th change, or if there is a code to get around it after that, or not. Haven't looked into it.

    While there are some DVDs that aren't coded for any particular region (most porn DVDs, fer example--hey, I used to sell DVDs-honest! :D), this one is definitely set for Region 2. I know that the music unions are a bit more stringent in the UK than they are over here as far as usage, so I'm guessing they just gave the go ahead for a European release only.

    And, Bruce is right, there is software, and some hardware "mods" that allow you to rig something to work. I used to do that with my old PS One so I could play Japanese games. My friend has an older APEX DVD player that has codes you can put in to get to a secret menu where you can turn the coding off, but APEX has since removed this "feature" as they were tired of getting threats of lawsuits.
     
  9. Bruce Lindfield

    Bruce Lindfield Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor Gold Supporting Member

  10. bassmonkeee

    bassmonkeee Supporting Member

    Sep 13, 2000
    Decatur, GA
    Hmmm. Interesting. I guess if you have an NTSC2 compatible TV, you should be set. I'd get one while you can, though. I don't imagine any of the major Hollywood studios, or Sony look kindly on getting around the coding system. I don't have any similar issues with it, though. :D So, grab one before the injunction!
     
  11. Bruce Lindfield

    Bruce Lindfield Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor Gold Supporting Member

    Thins never work out do they! As I mentioned I had just got the facility to play DVDs and had ordered "Shadows and Light" from Audiophile Imports. Just got an email saying they are sold out - they can't cope with the demand.

    I was hoping to get lots of Jaco DVDs but it seems you all in the US are buying too many - stop it now and let us Brits have some of those DVDs!! ;)
     
  12. Bruce,

    I don’t suppose there was any footage on a band called “T 2” included on the DVD’s?
    They appeared on the Wistle Test around ’71 and were also on Colour me Pop, which was the forerunner of TOGWT. This was a couple of years before I joined them.

    Funny, a couple of years ago T 2’s “It will all work out in Boomland” album was re-released with 3 extra tracks taken from those BBC sessions by a Japanese record company.
     
  13. Bruce Lindfield

    Bruce Lindfield Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor Gold Supporting Member

    No it is generally the well-known bands they have included and the most obscure is probably "Nine Below Zero" or the Damned.

    I still haven't got round to watching all of it yet - so I haven't seen the PIL, Focus, Iggy Pop or Ramones, Dr. Feelgood tracks amongst others.
     
  14. Bruce Lindfield

    Bruce Lindfield Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor Gold Supporting Member

    I am now really looking for help and the DVD region thing.

    So I noticed that the Old Grey Whistle Test DVD has a sticker on ths back that says DVD Region 0, which I presume means it will play anywhere.

    But I ordered "Shadows and Light" by Joni Mitchell - in the hope of seeing Jaco in a great band (amongst other things) but it doesn't work. I can't see what the region on this is either? I did actually buy the software I mentioned above to allow you to watch any DVDs - but I still can't!

    What happens is that I get a distorted black and white screen that is split three ways horizontally - bascially meaning you can't see anything. Anybody any ideas - has this happened to you? And hopefully somebody knows how to correct this - other websites have mentioned the "green screen" effect which the software I bought is supposed to correct; but this isn't what I get - anybody know how to get round this?
     
  15. Hey Bruce,

    Played the second DVD in the set last night - interesting stuff! Some of the original stuff I'd missed as I moved over here in the early 1980s. I'd forgotten just how awful that wretched Anne Shytingale woman was (still is!) - my goodness, she looks pretty rough these days! I always thought her to be a pretentious bitch, and my impressions haven't changed one bit. I'd forgotten that poor old Bob Harris was booted out in favour of that wretched woman! Interesting early "Police", and very early "Talking Heads", and "Dr Feelgood". Meatloaf was pretty lame (so what's new?) as was some of the punk stuff (AN wetting herself over "The Damned" - oh well!)

    On the whole, pretty good stuff though - thanks again for the heads-up!

    - Wil
     
  16. bassmonkeee

    bassmonkeee Supporting Member

    Sep 13, 2000
    Decatur, GA
    Where do you have the Playstation 2 in your signal chain to your TV? If you have it going through the VCR, you are experiencing the anti copying protection. You will need to hook the PS2 directly to the TV to play DVDs through it. It just dawned on me that this could be the problem. I hope this helps. if not, I have no idea.
     
  17. Bruce Lindfield

    Bruce Lindfield Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor Gold Supporting Member

    I do have the PS2 direct to the TV - I am pretty sure that it is an NTSC vs PAL thing - the PS manual says to be aware that it will only play PAL DVDs - never read it before!!

    Most DVD players on sale in the UK will play both but not PS2s. Eventually I will get a proper DVD player, when cassettes go out - my local video hire place is almost over to hiring out mostly DVDs already! - so I will save the DVD until then. Might see if any friends have a "proper" DVD player!
     
  18. bassmonkeee

    bassmonkeee Supporting Member

    Sep 13, 2000
    Decatur, GA
    Damn. I thought I had figured it out. Oh, well. Good luck.
     
  19. Bruce Lindfield

    Bruce Lindfield Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor Gold Supporting Member

    Bump
     
  20. JimK

    JimK

    Dec 12, 1999
    OK, you 'older' UK-ers... ;)
    What's the deal with this show?
    On a whim, I picked up The Old Grey Whistle Test on BBC DVD video. The disc has "28 Rare, Archived" performances...on a whole, I am impressed(the studio is small).
    The Curtis Mayfield track is so happenin'.
    Bill Withers' "Ain't No Sunshine" is cool as is The Wailers' "Stir It Up".

    The Edgar Winter Group(w/ Rick Derringer) doin' "Frankenstein" is a definite personal highlight...Winter plays some nasty alto in addition to some noizy synth.

    Seeing Rory Gallagher come alive again is cool.
    The Police in their more raw period is also neat.

    What got my attention was the 1st group listed-
    Alice Cooper. I wanted to see the original band play live again...but-
    Why do I seem to think they were playing "Under My Wheels" to a backing track? I swear I hear an organ in there...Michael Bruce is only seen playing an SG.

    These shows were about playing totally LIVE, right?