Double Thumping Tutorial

Discussion in 'Technique [BG]' started by SeanOnBass, Feb 27, 2017.


  1. SeanOnBass

    SeanOnBass Supporting Member

    Oct 23, 2005
    Seattle
    Endorsing Artist: MTD Basses, Bartolini, Genzler Amplification, GHS, Tsunami Cables, Sonic Nuance
    Hey guys,
    There are many players who far exceed my own ability in general and facility with this technique specifically, but I went ahead and broke down how I perform and think about double thumbing/double thumping/bidirectional slappification anyway - in HD with high quality sound :)
    Hope it helps someone!

     
  2. paytojt

    paytojt Supporting Member

    Apr 1, 2015
    Louisville, KY
    Thanks! I'm struggling with right hand thumb attack right now in regards to slap bass.
     
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  3. SeanOnBass

    SeanOnBass Supporting Member

    Oct 23, 2005
    Seattle
    Endorsing Artist: MTD Basses, Bartolini, Genzler Amplification, GHS, Tsunami Cables, Sonic Nuance
    You're very welcome! Wanna talk out the issues you're having, or do you think you just need to work on it some more?
     
  4. paytojt

    paytojt Supporting Member

    Apr 1, 2015
    Louisville, KY
    Just practice, I believe. I can make a nice slap sound by rebounding off the string, but I want to learn by using a downward motion that has the thumb resting on the next string. Sometimes I'll get it, sometimes I hit the next string with a mute sound, sometimes I catch my whole arm going up and down instead of twisting my wrist. Hopefully I just need more time and visual examples.
     
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  5. SeanOnBass

    SeanOnBass Supporting Member

    Oct 23, 2005
    Seattle
    Endorsing Artist: MTD Basses, Bartolini, Genzler Amplification, GHS, Tsunami Cables, Sonic Nuance
    Well it sounds like you're on the right track :) Keep working on it, it will come.
     
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  6. slagheap

    slagheap Supporting Member

    Dec 23, 2011
    that was great. double-thumbing is awesome and applicable to so many genres. i think my double thumbing is on the right track. i instinctively started with the " thumb up " position, but one thing i do is attack the strings too hard - that is, i tend to dig in too deeply with my thumb, which is slow and can lead to fatigue. i need to develop a little ( or a lot, ) more finesse.
     
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  7. paytojt

    paytojt Supporting Member

    Apr 1, 2015
    Louisville, KY
    Just wanted to bump this. This video has helped me understand slap the most.
     
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  8. socialleper

    socialleper Bringer of doom and top shelf beer Supporting Member

    May 31, 2009
    Canyon Country, CA
    The first time I saw it explained was about 20 years ago on a Victor Wooten instructional video. I get the concept, I just can't do it with any sort of proficiency. It seems to require thinner strings or fatter thumbs.
     
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  9. SeanOnBass

    SeanOnBass Supporting Member

    Oct 23, 2005
    Seattle
    Endorsing Artist: MTD Basses, Bartolini, Genzler Amplification, GHS, Tsunami Cables, Sonic Nuance
    I'm very glad to hear that!!
     
  10. paytojt

    paytojt Supporting Member

    Apr 1, 2015
    Louisville, KY
    Oh yeah I subscribed to your channel. Does your 6 string have a really fat neck?
     
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  11. SeanOnBass

    SeanOnBass Supporting Member

    Oct 23, 2005
    Seattle
    Endorsing Artist: MTD Basses, Bartolini, Genzler Amplification, GHS, Tsunami Cables, Sonic Nuance
    No, it's actually relatively thin. Natively has 16.5mm spacing but I push it out to 17+. ☺️
     
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  12. paytojt

    paytojt Supporting Member

    Apr 1, 2015
    Louisville, KY
    Good to know. On my 5 string rockbass fortress, the neck shape is a little fat for my liking, so good to know the streamer is thinner if/when I get to go bass shopping!
     
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  13. kesslari

    kesslari Groovin' with the Fusion Cats Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

    Dec 21, 2007
    Santa Cruz Mtns, California
    Lark in the Morning Instructional Videos; Audix Microphones
    This is really clear and nicely done.
     
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  14. Clef_de_fa

    Clef_de_fa Guest

    Dec 25, 2011
    Warwick necks for 5 and 6 are what i would call D shaped. There is a part in the center that is almost flat and then in the last half inch of each side it get drastically rounder to fit with the fingerboard. Well I don't know if it is different on Streamers but on Thumb they are like that. At first it was fat for me but I find it very comfy now.

    Ibanez and Carvin are more known for their slim neck.
     
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  15. SeanOnBass

    SeanOnBass Supporting Member

    Oct 23, 2005
    Seattle
    Endorsing Artist: MTD Basses, Bartolini, Genzler Amplification, GHS, Tsunami Cables, Sonic Nuance
    This varies by model and year. 90s necks were thinner and more C shaped, which they've not gone back to. I'm between were thicker.

    Who's getting this technique down? Having any issues? You wanna discuss?

     
  16. RobTheRiot

    RobTheRiot

    Aug 31, 2016
    las Vegas, nv
    I just came across this thread...Thank you for putting this video together... very clearly explained and demonstrated.
    I've been starting to focus on my slap technique (I'm blessed to be a full time bass player, but (kind of embarrassingly) in over 20 years of playing, slap technique has always eluded me, even tho I love the sound and listening those who do it well), and the double thumb style seems very versatile.
    Also seems very ergonomic - a lot of sound for very little motion...
    Again thank you for making yourself available, as I dig deeper into getting this style down I'm sure I may have questions...as for right now, I know it's just a matter of putting in the time...
     
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  17. SeanOnBass

    SeanOnBass Supporting Member

    Oct 23, 2005
    Seattle
    Endorsing Artist: MTD Basses, Bartolini, Genzler Amplification, GHS, Tsunami Cables, Sonic Nuance
    Hey Rob, that was a very nice sentiment, thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it. I'm happy to answer questions.

    There's nothing too different between slap bass or double slapping/thumbing/thumping and other right hand techniques, it just takes time (and a conducive setup), as you say. Have fun with it, throw in a double slap every now and then while you're playing with a band! Over time it'll feel less strange, and with real practice will become a fully productive technique for getting those strings vibrating, that you can use to play anything you might pluck, pick, etc.
     
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  18. Hi,
    thanks a lot for the video, it's very clear and well done. I recently started learning this technique and I didn't experience particular problems, maybe because I naturally approached slapping with a "thumb up" position.
    Watching your video and reading some people's posts I realized that slapping doesn't necessary involves rest stroke. I always slapped using rest stroke because in my experience that's the best way to make the string ring longer and have a more defined sound, while just hitting the string doesn't work very well for me.
    So... should I start practicing that kind of slap and maybe practice with "thumb down" position?
    How do you apply rest stroke on the G string with a 4 strings bass? Sometimes I rest my thumb on the pickguard, but not always.
    Thanks for your help.
     
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  19. SeanOnBass

    SeanOnBass Supporting Member

    Oct 23, 2005
    Seattle
    Endorsing Artist: MTD Basses, Bartolini, Genzler Amplification, GHS, Tsunami Cables, Sonic Nuance
    Hi @CunniMingus! That was fun to write, thanks for that.

    Thanks for the compliments, I'm glad you found it useful! I would say that the vast majority of bass players out there do NOT slap with a rest-stroke style like I'm doing in the video, bit the video makes the case for doing so. If you're already doing that, in my book you're ahead of the curve - it's true that slapping in the sort of "bouncing off" traditional way, either thumb up or thumb down style, does make a bit of a different tone. And doing it thumb down style makes certain fast rhythmic wrist twitches a little easier, but I've been able to relearn how to do all of that in the thumb up (or really for me, thumb parallel) position. I wouldn't say that you'd need to practice the thumb down style as well, but it's certainly a choice you could make and it never hurts to have more tools at your disposal. I don't find a need to spend any time on it myself.

    The rest stroke on the highest string (G or C in my case) is a bit of a unique scenario; you don't really have anything to rest on past that string. I find that I use the same angles when I'm doing double strokes on my highest string, but it is a little tougher with nothing to stop your thumb, to rest on. You could experiment with slapping your thumb more inwards toward the body or pickup, in an effort to arrest your movement, or you might find that it requires a little different approach. Whatever you do come up with, post it here so it may help others!
     
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  20. Hi,
    I'm new to slap, so take my comment with a grain of salt, ok?
    I played guitar ala Wes Montgomery for some time, so I'm used to rest stroke technique using my thumb, that's probably why I found myself learning slap basics so fast, I don't know.
    I'm not sure if I'm doing everything right but honestly... I can't understand how it's possible to get a decent slap sound just "bouncing off" without resting on the next string (or the fingerboard, maybe?). Maybe everybody does a really quick rest and didn't realize that?
    The "no resting" approach works ok for low E and A, D and G strings doesn't seem to react to the "hit" of the thumb very well, in my experience. I just hear the metallic hit without a defined note, while even a quick subtle rest produce an audible note, because the string is allowed to vibrate more.
    The same is for "thumb down" position. I can't rest on anything in that position, it's real odd and uncomfortable for me. Maybe I missed something, I don't know.

    Another thing, I don't slap using the typical "bony" part at the middle of the thumb like this:
    slap.jpg
    It's impossible to rest that area to the next string, so I found myself using the same angle of the thumb but closer to the fingernail. Like you said, the sound is different.
     
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