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Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by Jeff Scott, Nov 29, 2009.
Um, good luck. May the farce be with you!
If those numbers are true, then him saying "90% of them were made right with cabinets the other 10% were paid cash" on Facebook is not cool. His tone on this fb thread is really 'past tense' about the whole thing, that everyone was made right in some way and people just wont let it go. Well, if you havent paid them, yeah, they probably aren't really wanting to just move on...
That's S.O.P for d. bASS.
Man, I received a Reverb message from him last night asking about the price for my Schecter 5-string that I've been trying to EVENTUALLY sell.
When I looked at his site, I remembered the badge on the bass cab. (Mind you, I haven't been active in the bass world for a few years.) This led me to come back to trusty TalkBass.com and do a quick search, only to realize, "yeah, that's why I remember that name."
Guess I won't be doing any business with him. I'd hate for him to try to screw me out of a few hundred bucks because he'll claim the bass didn't show up in proper shape or something.
Well, he's on the Asheville Bass Hang group page on FB saying: "90% of all refunds were handled by shipping gear the other 10% were paid but there are a couple who will accept nothing. There are also those that have posted on sites that don't know me have never ordered anything from me but the administrators won't take them down either, you see if they have an agenda also".
Mainly I was coming on here to see who was still owed money or product, as his claim doesnt seem to jive with this. Also, 90% + 10% = 100%, but "there are a couple who will accept nothing" is a little confusing, because: math.
I guess what I’m really wanting to know is who in this thread is still owed money or a bass, since by his calculations, 100% minus “a couple“ of customers have been made whole
That is a very difficult number to quantify. The only way to know for sure would be to contact everyone on the "still owed" list and ask them.
Just because someone fails to post here does not mean their debt is resolved. I know several put this thread on "ignore" because they just couldn't handle it going to the top again and again and again (I've debated it myself but I stay subscribed for reasons like this). I know others have ditched TB in favor of Facebook or other information sharing platforms so they probably don't know about Serio's current antics.
Again, it is a very difficult number to quantify. At last count, this was the full list...
portaflexer - I can verify this one
Received product eventually:
Received full/partial refund thru other means:
I guess those are the "a couple who will accept nothing". Jesus.....
Holy crap. ok----he's a jerk
One thing that needs to be understood about Mr Serio is that he's not just a cabinet maker, he's also a professional thief. He knows exactly what he's doing. He'll accept the money up front, tell the customer to expect a wait, delay some responses, come up with excuses... before you know it the chargeback period is exceeded and Serio walks off with the money. Then he fills a couple orders, admits to mistakes, says he's got a new plan, and he's back in business... just to repeat the process.
These aren't $3000 orders either, its $200 here, $400 there... enough to keep him out of court... but it adds up. He has repeated the same behaviors time and time again for about a decade now. Thru it all he delivers new orders (and occasionally one from the past), but he never straightens out the mess he's made. It just grows with each passing year and the wronged are never made whole.
If anyone thinks he might have changed his ways, I invite you to go back to page 1 of this thread and start reading. My guess is you won't make it half-way thru before you spot a pattern. Same behaviors, same excuses, same claims over and over. The thing is, Serio is compelling and charming. You want to believe him. You want to give him the benefit of the doubt. I know because it happened to me... and so many others. This thread serves as proof.
yeah---it's too bad. I didn't know the extent of his misdeeds.He represented himself on the FB thread in a way that obviously betrays reality. Well---tried to give him a chance to make good.
Here are some of my favorite JT quotes from this thread. Collectively, I think they pretty much sum up the whole situation.
2011 - NOTE the count was 14 unfilled orders at this point
PLEASE tell me this still isn't going on? I've been away for awhile but God, please say this has stopped. Marc is not doing the anymore....
BTW... still waiting(not really) for my cab...
Well Sliderbass... I've got some bad news...
(but that doesn't really surprise you does it?)
Any updates, or is it still SOS?
WOW ! iM JUST NOW SEEING THIS -- THAT SUCKER OWES ME A DRB 6 x 10 loaded w/faital pro neos.THAT WAS 10 YEARS AGO ... AT LEAST ,, NOW WHAT ?
Go have a beer and wallow in the fact that you'll never see your cab, or get your money back.
The only thing we can really do is make sure this thread never dies. It seems to be the only proof.
Been years now. Never seen my cab or got my money back. I hope he rots in @#$% or someone gives him a free trip there soon.
I'm in the exact same boat as you on this one. Same cab. I honestly don't want either back at this point I want to see him rot.
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