Some of this is sloppy and may not make sense but this is where all the experimentation began before any kind of fromat or plan was developed. It's also where much of the learning began. Some after the fact organization is in process. Unless noted otherwise, all trials are fingerpick and using the bass specified with TI JF 344's run true stereo direct out (no pots) from each pup (where two pups exist) into seperate channels of a 2000 Polytone Mini Brute V with settings remaining flat unless noted otherwise [and running flat didn't last long in my recollection]. Single pups are ran through a single channel (I is 2 band, II is 3 band) and the amp has a combine switch where channels can be combined. Most of these pups were ran series humbucking unless noted otherwise. I did finally fall out of a coma and pick up a switch but series/parallel/single pole switching really doesn't change the sound of the pup and is nothing I couldn't get through amp adjustment. Parallel and single pole switching do significantly reduce output. However, with the addition a neck pup I might find switching to be useful. I've ran pups through various rigging and the charactistics of the pup follow it just as the acoustic tone inherent in a bass follows it, though different rigging can diminish or accent different characterics of the pup. My standard pup setting is as high as they'll go without driving the strings into them, maximum 1/8." Pups are appropriately mounted in standard configuration unless noted otherwise. Also all are played to the same tunes in the following styles: Reggae, blues, country, Rock - some Jazz, 60's R&B, and Latin, with a few Stanley Clarke riffs thrown in solo. In alphabetical order with ==== indicating the lastest, Have run: MISCELLANEOUS COMBINATIONS INITIAL "PRE-EXPERIEMENT" MEDLEY (Pg.1) Side by Sides MM STERLING/BART MMC/BART MME - SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISON (Pg.1) LANE POOR MODULUS/BARTOLINI MODULUS "SIDE BY SIDE" COMPARISON MEDLEY - SYNOPSIS (Pg.2) LANE POOR MODULUS /BARTOLINI MODULUS "SIDE BY SIDE" COMPARISON MEDLEY - COMPLETE (Pg.2) MODULUS LANE POOR MM/LANE POOR M3.5W SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISON (Pg.2) MODULUS MM LANE POOR/MODULUS SEYMOUR DUNCAN SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISON (Pg.3) ====== BARTOLINI MMC (Passive 4 wire + ground) (Pg.1) BARTOLINI MME Passive 3 COIL (wired South Pole in series and humbucker in parallel) (Pg.1) BARTOLINI MMC/MME BASS SWAP (acoustics of bass affect on pup) (Pg.2) BARTOLINI MM4 QUAD COIL (from Tobias Growler) (Pg.2) BARTOLINI MODULUS MM4 (original pup from 2001 Flea [FB4] Bass) (Pg.2) CARVIN (ALNICO 5) 4 STRING MM (acoustically midrange bass) (Pg.2) CARVIN (ALNICO 5) 4 STRING MM (acoustically bright bass) (Pg.2) Ernie Ball STERLING 3 COIL PASSIVE HB (Pg.1) ERNIE BALL ALNICO 5 STINGRAY (Pg.2) ERNIE BALL MUSIC MAN BONGO (Pg.2) LANE POOR MUSIC MAN (from MODULUS Flea FB4) (Pg.2) LANE POOR MODULUS MM BRIDGE/LANE POOR M3.5W SOAP NECK (Pg.2) LANE POOR MUSIC MAN 5 (4 lead w/grd) (Pg.3) MTD KINGSTON MM (Korean passive 2 wire) (Pg.1) NORDSTRAND MM 4.2 Alnico (acoustically midrange and bright bass) (Pg.2) SEYMOUR DUNCAN MM (SMB-4d to my knowledge) (Pg.2) SEYMOUR DUNCAN MODULUS MUSIC MAN (Pg.3) So far: ---------------------------------- INITIAL EXPERIMENT MEDLEY This started in another thread and took off on it's own, therefore this posting. Anybody that's had another experience or related thoughts, feel free to jump in. Pup(s) were wired straight to seperate neck and bridge output jacks (no pots) and run to independent amp channels. I have done the following so far: 1) Bart MMC about 3/4" closer to bridge than standard MM positioning 2) The same at standard MM bridge position (sp = standard position) 3) The same at mid position 4) The same at neck position 5) Duncan P (SPB 2) neck position with MMC sp 6) Bart MME neck and MMC sp 7) MTD Kingston pup at sp 8) MTD Kingston neck and MMC sp 9) Bart 9K-S1 (J) neck and MMC sp 10) Bart MME sp Synopsis with the MM is basically the further from the bridge they get, the darker they become and more growl they loose. I could get good tone on bass strings or treble strings with the MMC but not both through my rigging. Moving up the neck or using the fat of my finger helped take some edge off the excessive treble tones. The MME (3 coil) as it was wired was darker with less growl than the MMC and has a warmer tone of it's own which is not bad. The Kingston pup was a deal @ $15 shipped but no Bart. Anything at the neck besides the Bart J took away from the sweet tones of the MMC at the bridge, even at low volume drownded out the MMC, and was generally too dark sounding overall. The MMC solo in sp was the best option except the MMC in combo with the Bart J at the neck which was the ticket. Definitely a keeper combo. The J neck was an excellent compliment to the MMC in terms of tone. The J's thin by nature so doesn't drowned out the MMC at the bridge and allows for beefing up the bottom end without taking away the highs from the MMC, depending on adjustment. In addition I could adjust the J volume only so that the biting treble edge of the MMC on the D & G strings was resolved. I could get a tone similar to my Bart PJ setup (or the Duncan PJ - fat bottom/low mid) yet retain the MM sound. Worked very well over a fairly broad range of musical styles. I should mention that when I get a setup right, the volumes from each pup produce a broad range of useful tones from slight adjustment (thus no need for tone controls) with very good volume even at low settings. As a result, I'm able to keep the amp EQ flat. For more depth and info you can go to the "Bartolini and Stingray / Sterling ?" thread in this forum.