Man, i have no idea how you LA or OC people do it. I had to be in Santa Monica for an appt. by noon... I ended up leaving a little after 3:00.... yikes.... It took a LONG time to get back to San Diego. Once i finally reached the 5 south i wasn't so bad. But getting to the 5 south... wow. You guys are soldiers for dealing with that crap. It could've been worse... i could've left at 4:00 or later For those that have to commute through that nonsense... I salute you.