Discussion in 'Band Management [BG]' started by bassfrenzie, Jun 29, 2008.

  1. bassfrenzie


    May 26, 2008
    Myself & the drummer stay sober at the gig. I allow myself a bud around midnight.

    The front man & gui**** smoke their brains out and or drink like a lot. Front man says it loosens him up so he can perform & the crowd digs it. This of course, is all in his mind.
    He gets loose alright, but forgets lyrics, structure & Can't make a sound song choice decision after midnight. gui**** holds his own but says & does stupid crap, as most drunks do. Kinda embarrassing.

    It's not enough to ruin the show, but it does bug me when mistakes are made because of drugs & booze.
  2. Ric5

    Ric5 Supporting Member

    Jan 29, 2008
    I like 5, 8, 10, and 12 string basses
    Also a smart club owner doesn't want a drunk drugged up band ... the band is there to work not to get trashed ...

    When I play out I start with a water then I have a beer then a water then a beer then a water ... by then it is time to pack up and go home ... I am still sober but I had some fun.
  3. canshaker


    Dec 15, 2007
    Los Angeles, CA
    Endorsing Artist: Ashdown/ESP/Dunlop/Line 6/Normandy.
    Video a show and show them what jackasses they are.
  4. jady


    Jul 21, 2006
    Modesto, CA
    I limit myself to 1 drink per set. That way I stay pretty clear headed and by the time we tear down I am cool to drive home.
  5. Twiggy Jr.

    Twiggy Jr.

    Nov 17, 2005
    get as drunk/high as them to get on their level, then it won't bug ya so much
  6. bassfrenzie


    May 26, 2008
    I'd rather be bugged than stoop to that level.

    But thanks for the advice.
  7. kesslari

    kesslari Groovin' with the Fusion Cats Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

    Dec 21, 2007
    Santa Cruz Mtns, California
    Lark in the Morning Instructional Videos; Audix Microphones
    Invoke the Willie Nelson rule - all band members should be using the same drugs, to more or less the same degree.
    A band of potheads can sound good - see "Reggae Music". :D
    One coke user in a band of potheads will make everything sound awful.

    Somewhat seriously, though, a big discrepancy in the biochemical adjustment between band members can create problems. If it's a problem to you, then deal with it. If it's *really* not a problem to you, then live with it.
  8. Find new "Musicians" to play with, in the end I'm sure you will be glad you did.
  9. ga_edwards


    Sep 8, 2000
    UK, Essex
    If your frontman truly cares about the quality and stamina of his voice, he really shouldn't be drinking alcohol of any kind. Yes you might see some of the rock 'heros' drinking on stage, but the truly great singers had pints of water.
  10. bassfrenzie


    May 26, 2008
    Nothing I can't deal with. Sometimes you have to overlook a few things to keep the peace and keep the band in tact.

    I'm more interested in everybody's take on the drugs & booze issue.
  11. Qvist


    Jul 20, 2007
    HAHHA! that's what I call a fine piece of advice :D
  12. Brent's Groove

    Brent's Groove

    Mar 14, 2007
    Welcome to my world, man; I've got basically the same problem. Of the power trio I play with, I'm the notorius boozer, and the last gig we played, the other guys were sooo concerned that I was going to get too blasted to play. Their concern was kind of unwarrented because although I usually drink more than both of them together, I never do so at gigs. I think it's 'cause I've got too much respect for playing music than to get totally loaded before or during a gig. Anyways, after their "heart-to-heart", we played the gig the next day. TOTAL DISASTER. I was sober, but the rest of the band got trashed. It was so rough, the drummer didn't even play the last set; we had to do it acoustic. Needless to say, we won't be getting hired for that gig again...

    That being said, the way I handled the problem was to book lots and lots of gigs with my other band, and only a few with the aforementioned trio.

    All in all, I've got no problem with getting wasted, thrown out of the bar, and waking up in jail, I just try to do so after the gig is over. lulz
  13. The drunken/stoned rockstar thing is pretty cliche. No one really wants to see drunk people staggering around on stage.

    Like some have mentioned here, I limit myself to one or two beers during a four-hour gig, with plenty of water in between. Last night, I didn't have a beer until we finished our gig (but it sure hit the spot, a nice end-of-night reward for a good gig).
  14. Curtybob


    Jun 2, 2007
    Jackson, MO
    Actually, at a rock show, the best times are when you get to see a little drunken mayhem.... like it gives the band a personality. If I were to go see a jazz show, I'd expect a little different. It's not cliche, just the nature of the beast. Breathing is cliche, if you ask me. ;)
  15. Twiggy Jr.

    Twiggy Jr.

    Nov 17, 2005
    haha, i've actually seen that, and it was quite amusing
    or if they are all on blow 'cept for one person who's high, and he's goin about 1/2 speed as everyone else, not a care inthe world
    understandably, i've only seen that band perform once
  16. fishtx


    Mar 30, 2007
    Dallas, TX
    Endorsing Artist: Genzler Amplification/Spector Basses/Mojo Hand FX
    Dope is for dopes....


    May 4, 2006
    Courtenay, BC, Canada
    A couple of drinks and a chonger are always nice before a jam or a show. Wouldn't want to be completely trashed though.
  18. arbitrary

    arbitrary Supporting Member

    Oct 24, 2005
    Boston, MA
    Honestly, I wouldn't put up with that and I'd leave the band.
  19. mwhite89


    Apr 3, 2005
    Gore, Oklahoma
    I agree with the person who suggested filming the show. I remember the first show I did on acid in 1970. We were all stoned. The colors, lights, and oddly moving pepole were "a trip", but the manager who did not do drugs or drink could not understand why we sound so weird during and after the first set.

    It is self-deceiving to thing one sounds better, or is more creative while stoned or with more than one or two drinks depending on your personal tolerance for etoh).
  20. bamx


    Jul 2, 2006
    no booze before or after, is just as bad. Someone getting hammered after the show can get the whole band in trouble.