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Drum patterns??

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous [BG]' started by mark beem, Jun 17, 2003.


  1. mark beem

    mark beem Gold Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2001
    New Hope, Alabama
    Ok.. I absolutely abhor programming drum patterns!! What are the alternatives for getting "generic" pattern in say .wav format out there on the WWW that can still be tweaked, or already come in Odd time signatures? Does such an animal even exist??
     
  2. 20db pad

    20db pad

    Feb 11, 2003
    I been everywhere, man...
    None. At all.
    I sometimes download midi files and open them up in Cakewalk. Almost all the time, you can then go in and edit the midi events any way you want.


    There's plenty of stuff for this application if you do a google search on something similar to "funk midi files" or the like. They are often the drum parts of sequenced tunes.
     
  3. JimK

    JimK

    Dec 12, 1999
    C'mon...the process of doing-it-yourself will make you a better bassist.
    ;)
     
  4. Phil Smith

    Phil Smith Mr Sumisu 2 U

    May 30, 2000
    Peoples Republic of Brooklyn
    Creator of: iGigBook for Android/iOS
    Generic???

    What's so hard about programming the kick on the 1 and 3 and the snare on the 2 and 4?

    If you want to tweak, you'll need midi, that way you can alter the patterns and the tempo. Notation software such as Finale and Sibelius can do the job as well. If you get a copy of any of the New Real Books, they have some sample drum patterns in standard notation that you can use as a basis.
     
  5. mark beem

    mark beem Gold Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2001
    New Hope, Alabama
    Nothing at all.... IF that was all I was doing...

    Try programming a Zonder, Bozzio, or Peart type drum pattern.. A little more involved than what you stated above...
     
  6. Eric Cioe

    Eric Cioe

    Jun 4, 2001
    Missoula, MT
    Neil Peart's patterns in 4/4 sometimes aren't that hard to do. Lots of ride.... ride ridi ridi rididididid ride
     
  7. mark beem

    mark beem Gold Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2001
    New Hope, Alabama
    I guess where I get most frustrated at is with accents, variations and subtle nuances that to me make drum patterns interesting...

    Yeah, I could just do something that would be good enough but like the saying goes.. Good enough seldom is...
     
  8. mark beem

    mark beem Gold Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2001
    New Hope, Alabama

    That's probably true.. But I find myself spending more time trying to program drum parts than actually writing / recording..

    :meh:
     
  9. JimK

    JimK

    Dec 12, 1999
    I think Phil & I both misunderstood you; I was assuminmg you wanted something simple & 'generic'.
    Reading it again, I see...not.
    ;)

    In any event, IMHO, one cannot program a Bozzio, Coliauta, et al beat with a machine.
    Entirely too much "nuance"(your word!) happenin'.
    ;)

    I recall when drum machines came onto the scene & everyone thought it would make the recording process so much quicker 'cause the engineer didn't have to fuss with mic placements on a real drum set.
    What most found out was it took even longer to program a 'breathable'/viable drum part vs. just hiring a player to do the job.
     
  10. Phil Smith

    Phil Smith Mr Sumisu 2 U

    May 30, 2000
    Peoples Republic of Brooklyn
    Creator of: iGigBook for Android/iOS
    Jimk, I think ProgZilla was mis-stating what he was looking for in the beginning:

    Is a generic pattern a basic beat, or is a complex one?
     
  11. mark beem

    mark beem Gold Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2001
    New Hope, Alabama
    No, I guess I just didn't state clearly enough what I wanted..

    What I would be looking for is a "generic" pattern in say 7/8 that I could then modify and tweak... As in moving the snare hit to different locations.. changing where pushed hi-hat accents would fall, etc..
     
  12. Blackbird

    Blackbird Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Mar 18, 2000
    California
  13. mark beem

    mark beem Gold Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2001
    New Hope, Alabama