So I am in a small "jam band" with a few friends of mine. We have recorded some tracks, wrote some songs, etc. Some suck and some are good (at least to my ears) and we are getting better. It has all been a learning experience for all of us and has allowed us to get better at our instruments and into making music. Its good in a way as we are not inhibited in anyway or afraid about what one might think if we mess up versus being a sole individual in a new band with people you really dont know too well. However, some learn faster then others right or just have a nack for the style of music we are trying to play? I guess for me, as the bass player, the instrument came pretty natural to me. I listen to a lot of genres of music which I incorporate into my playing. I can hold a rhythm down, get into the pocket and play a tight groove with my drummer. I am all about less flash and keeping things simple and sounding good. You don't need a lot of notes in general to get people moving their feet (look at reggae music, less flash but every note counts). On to the problems, my drummer - great great guy in the outside world would do anything for the guy. But when it comes to music he isn't practicing enough. He shows up for rehearsal in my basement studio 1-2x a week which is good, but I guess I expect more from a "full time drummer". Is it different for drummers or something? Do they require less practice? I practice my bass at least 1-2 hrs daily (if not more!), even if its just working scales to keep my fingers fresh and working on muscle memory. In our rehearsal last night, he kept forgetting the groove and rhythm of familiar songs in our arsenal, stuff we play every time we rehearse! Obviously he is a friend so I want to be careful about how I approach him on this, but I think he needs to step it up and take it a bit more seriously. Also shouldn't a drummer focus on what the bass player is doing? I find he's always looking up at the guitar player and trying to lock in to what he's doing. I keep reminding him to look at me and what I am doing and to focus on the groove of the bass. He doesn't seem to get it. My guitar player, he's been playing a bit longer then me and was a bit of the primary influence for me to get a bass and start playing. It was more out of convenience that I started playing since he wanted a bass player to jam along with. Now, my skills have improved greatly, but I am having a tough time getting him to follow along with the basic rhythm of a song and following what the bass player is doing. He tends to always want to go off to doing some solo (random notes most of the time) in the middle of a verse or chorus out of nowhere or just in general not follow the same groove/rhythm thats going on and flip into the chorus or some "passage" when he feels like it. The bad thing is my drummer follows that groove and things just screwed up. There are a few songs we have where there is a heavy/fast bass passage that I came up with where the bass is supposed to stand out and no matter what he feels the need to try and overdue (or kind of top me in a way). I keep telling him, less is more, don't overdue it just doesn't sound right with the groove we have going on. Or at least communicate to me when you want to "change things" in a groove, signal to me with a nod. Last night he got pissed at me and told me I was acting like a "Paul McCartney" trying to tell the guitar player how to hold the rhythm down or how to make music. Anyways, I guess this is outside the scope of band mgmt in a way and more of a "how to make music" properly with the right people. Just curious if this is the typical behavior with most band members as we are all artists in our own right and have an opinion how things should sound. I am obviously not looking to ruin my friendship here with friends over this, but the point of making music is working with people and keep the same timing and groove.